European Stars And Stripes (Newspaper) - August 14, 1968, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Page 8 the stars and stripes wednesday August . Policy makers debate risks involving bomb halt by John m. Hightowe Paris a . Policy makers have reportedly Bee engaged in Sharp debate Over How much risk president John son can afford to take in deciding whether to end All bomb ing and shelling of North Viet  debate is understood to cover at one extreme . Acceptance of some Appa rent act of de escalation Bynorth Vietnam without any Clear Assurance for the  the other extreme firm commitments would be required on what Steps North Vietnam would take when the bomb in stopped. Ambassador Averell Harri Man sketched the nature of the problem from the . Point of stars and stripes columns and comment leaving conference Sargent Shriver . Ambassador to France left and . Senate majority Leader Mike Mansfield leave the residence of French Premier Maurice Couve de Mur Ville in Paris after conferring on the vietnamese War. A word from Paris to not a candidate Shriver tells Moyers Garden City . A publisher Bill Moyers said Mon Day he had just returned froma trip to Paris in connection with the presentation of Jackson Pollack painting to the . Embassy and while there discussed the possibility of ambassador Sargent Shriver run Ning for vice president on the democratic , a former aide to president Johnson and now pub Lisher of new Day said Shriver told him he is not a candidate for the office of vice president and does not intend to enc our Bill  Mission age anyone to promote , who is married to the former Eunice Kennedy sister of the late president has been publicly suggested for a ticket headed by vice president Hubert h. Humphrey. Moyers who was Shriver Deputy when the ambassador headed the peace corps said retold the ambassador of the press speculation and of inquiries he had received from former peace corpsmen about Shriver s availability. Moyers emphasized in a state ment that the Paris discussion was Between two friends on Avery personal basis and that he had not consulted with an democratic party leaders either before his trip or since his re turn. I told him scores of former peace corps volunteers have inquired of me As or. Shriver former Deputy at the peace corps if they could help support his candidacy and since gov. Spiro t Agnew s selection by Richard Nixon on thursday the intensity of the inquiries had  Moyers account of his conversation was in response to questions about his Contact wit Shriver. He said he made the trip in his capacity As a trustee of the Guggenheim museum which arranged for the Pollack painting to be displayed at the embassy. View this week in the 16th ses Sion of the Paris peace talks. He told ambassador Havaneau of North Vietnam that Johnson has found no basis so far for calling off the bomb ing. This clearly gave the administration s assessment under present circumstances of the relative military Lull in South Vietnam during the past six weeks. Some american officials Petit More sharply in private conversation the danger the president has to consider is that if he stopped the bombing and the communists started a big offensive afterwards he would have made a costly mis take. It would look As if head been taken in by a  some Neutral diplomats her believe the two poles in the administration debate May be Secretary of defense Clark m. Clifford and Secretary of state Dean Rusk. Clifford was an architect of the bombing limitation policy imposed March 31, which led directly to the Paris talks. Rusk said last week the United states would have to know from North Vietnam what would happen if it stopped the bombing. Johnson also made Sev eral statements about the time of the Rusk conference stress ing North vietnamese infiltration into the South and the threat his military advisers see of a new communist offensive in the South. However the pressures with in the administration in Washington to find some basis for ending the bombing even at fairly High risk Are believed Tobe persistent. Some officials Are known to have argued that bombing the North accomplishes Little that concentrate bombing on infiltration trails in Laos and South Vietnam  accomplish. Rusk said last week that 30per cent of the trucks going Down the trails Are being destroyed. But those who favor some easing of . Policy argue the reverse that 70 per cent of the trucks and Accord ing to Johnson an estimated 30,000 men in july have gone through despite the bombing. Harriman put the problem in terms of the degree of risk he said there were risks inthe Steps that the president took March 31 and  headed that rejection of John son s Appeal for Matching restraint by North Vietnam and the signs we see on the grounding Vietnam have failed to give Johnson any basis to take the additional risks a Complete bombing halt would make necessary. Harriman s probing of the North vietnamese position on the Lull in the South took the form of an attack. He said the estimated infiltration figure of30,000 men in july was the highest yet. He argued that intelligence obtained from prison ers and captured documents indicates that More attacks Are being planned against Sai gon and other  at the same time he said the United states basically requires Only that North Vietnam  improve its military Posi Tion As a result of a bombing Stop. And he appealed to North Vietnam to join with us to consider serious Steps to be Gin to end the War. 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Tall it s As logical As using rank i am 23 and my husband is 24 years of age i nit we Cambe trusted to borrow $500. Yet a couple we know both 21 and he is e4, financed a $1,500 1968 car through aka this Lgth same company which would not even consider us. Who is responsible for this ludicrous and ridiculous policy Are the loan companies in some Type of an Alliance with the new car salesmen do we have to buy a new car which Wedon t want in order to get a car at All e4 s . Normany editor s note american express replies As a matter Olfat there arc More important considerations to us than rank in reviewing a loan application. Among them Are the prospective Borrower s take Home pay his other commitments in relation to Normal living expenses and his rotation Date. While we do not know the applicant s name or other definite details in the present instance we do feel that it must have been one of these factors rather than solely his Grade that determined the co signer requirement. In other words within the context of a flexible loan policy we still must keep of course the ability of an applicant to repay his loan As a Iliasic guideline in deciding to extend a loan and if so whether or not to request co signer. Cheaper air travel i Don t believe Many of our fellow americans realize they can take advantage of the 50per cent reduction in air fares while on a visit to . Although intended to in crease tourism to America nonresident americans residing overseas Are eligible to participate in the visit .a." program. I recently flew from Washington d.c., to Cleveland to Roanoke va., to Tampa to Hartford conn., and to new York City for approximately$108 plus 5 per cent tax. If the ticket is purchased in Europe before departure no tax is paid at All. All you need is a  official card from the department of Commerce obtainable at the . 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