European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - February 15, 1969, Darmstadt, Hesse Log 8 the stars and stripes saturday february 15, 1969 to Etc &$ms�8 i Best possible service it seems yes is just telling the Pali Onville housewife dec. 27s&s what she already knows that there Are commissaries in ludwigs Burg and Robinson Barracks. What she wanted to know was Why there is no commissary where hundreds of families live no one lives out by the ludwigs Burg commis sary. The bus to Robinson Barrack Sis always full you have to stand All the Way Back with arms loaded with grocery bags try ing to hang on to your children at the same , i now live at Robinson Barracks and can Wal to and from the commissary. I even have first class attention regarding plumbers electricians Etc one Day s wait atthe most. Why then does Pat ton Ville have to wait three to four weeks for a repair Job a Carpenter once told me i washes Only Job that Day so he was in no does Pattonville have no clinic or dispensary for All those people when they have plenty of space for one. Please Don t Tell me the army can t afford these things we air Force people Are sick of hearing How poor the army is. Air Force wife Stuttgart Germany editor s note Baden Wuerttemberg support District officials feel there is no justification for your complaint concerning Lack of a commissary and dispensary at Pattonville in that both of those Are available at Robinson Barracks Aid there also is a commissary at Lud Wissburg. These locations Are within 15minutes driving distance from Pattonville and can be reached conveniently by automobile or military bus a District spokes Man bus service Between Pattonville and Robinson bar Racks was instituted As a convenience to Pattonville Resi dents the official replied with buses scheduled every hour from 6 . To an hour past Midnight. This service is considered to be completely satisfactory even though it is realized that running some crowded bases during Peak hours cannot be avoided the District spokes Man said. Your Reader should under stand be continued that this hourly bus service is the Maxi mum this Headquarters can be provided with the vehicles and Drivers , he said an yes Woodland is located at Patton vile which can certainly Takecare of any possible hardship on housing area residents i emergencies. As to your question Why Lud Wissburg with a smaller Mili tary population than Pattonville has a commissary the District official said the reason is that the Lud Wissburg commissary was constructed before the Pattonville housing area was built at a time when a Large part of the Mili tary population was living i requisition Boosing in that City. The construction of an additional commissary at Patton Ville was not then and is not now considered required be cause of its close and convenient location to Robinson bar Racks and your complaint about Engineer repair services he also said backlogs cannot be avoided. Pattonville and Robinson Are serviced by two. Different shops but the difficulties encountered tile similar,0 the District spokes Man maintained adding the Speed with which work orders Are completed Independent upon the Avata bully of supplies spare parts and some equipment must come from the United states other is obtained from German sup pliers he explained. Where specific parts Are Stow a com ing in consequently the Cus Tomer s waiting time As to having Only one Carpen try Job in a Day the workload May be Low during certain periods thus permitting the District Engineer to do the Job promptly. But declared the District spokesman your Reader May rest assured that m i 1 it a r agencies concerned Are doing their utmost under prevailing conditions to provide the Best possible service to their who can use . Facilities i was under the impression that such things As commis Saries Heaters and shuttle buses were for the exclusive use of american servicemen and their dependents. But fro what i have observed in this area this is not the Case. At the Robinson Barrack commissary a German employed by the american government is usually checking id cards. On numerous Occa Sions i have seen germans walk right through without showing identification. These people then proceed to get cart full of groceries and Check out no questions asked. Identification cards Are also not checked at both the Robin son Barracks and the Liberty Heaters. On almost any night you can find German couple occupying seats and after the movie watch cars with Ger Man License plates drive away. These Are not gis and their girl friends either. I have also seen bus Drivers on their Way from Pali Onville to Robinson Barracks Stop Topick up friends who were not standing at the bus Stop but rather flagging the buses Down. As servicemen in Germany our rights and privileges Are rather limited. But those right Sand privileges that Are awarded to us should be enforced and their use by germans ended. Observant Stuttgart editor s note you Are wrong in assuming that . Army operated commissaries Heaters and shuttle buses Are for the sole and exclusive use of american military personnel and their families Saida spokesman for the Baden Wuerttemberg support District. In accordance with Perti nent regulations he said a civilians and others entitled to logistic support As Well As re tired military personnel living in Germany state department officials British and French diplomatic and consular Mem Bers technical representatives contractors and unaccompanied dependents of servicemen in Vietnam All Are authorize to use Stuttgart facilities. A Complete list of these individuals is contained in us a eur Reg. 700-32, said the official adding of course the above category of eligible personnel May include German nationals such As not All of those listed in the regulation May Register their personal motorcars with Usa eur the spokesman said further pointing out that diplomatic officials and other drive with German License plates. The result is he continued individuals patronizing army operated movie Thea ters and driving away in cars with German plates As you allege Are in fact personnel authorized military logistic support or germans who have guest privileges if accompanied by an individual authorized such support. As to any implication that any unauthorized germans Are permitted to buy at the Robin son Barracks commissary the District spokesman declared this insinuation in fact has no basis everyone entering the commissary he said is asked to present id cards and All pre cautions Are taken to ensure that eligible personnel Only Are buying at the commissaries 1 to do otherwise the Baden Wuerttemberg official continued would be a flagrant Vio lation of legs and German Law. This Headquarters tolerate any Loose practices in this respect he said. Neither can it be confirmed that civilian Drivers employed by this Headquarters permit military buses to be flagged Down.". In the interests of traffic safety this practice has never been approved and the Rule for operating the buses explicitly exclude such appropriate military authorities the support District official concluded further Dis agree with your statement that the rights and privileges of servicemen Are rather this is not a factual state intent he said. The facilities provided members of the .forces throughout Germany but particularly in the Stutt Gart area compare most favor ably at like military installations in the United states. This la being acknowledge frequently by Many satisfied customers who look at stateside Calls this is in reference to the letter from it. Fagan who had to wait 11 hours for his Call tothe states. I placed a stateside Call for4 . Get dec. 24. The Tele phone rang at 4 04 . Cetane i had my stateside num Ber. I furnished the location area code and the Telephone number. It Wasas easy As calling around the local Post. John i Lieb Neu him Germany where Thuc surf is we have noticed Many letter from people claiming knowledge on the whereabouts of the elusive Sun. We must Grant the Sun is very difficult to locate but we have finally achieved that goal. On our first morning in Gar Misch we observed that the Sun was out. We were highly lated. We thought we had it in the bag. When it reappeared the following Day we were sure of it that a right we concocted Aplan to go to the top of the Zug Spitze and try to get Clos enough to get the son into the Little bag we carried. " the next morning we took the Cable a to the top. Sure &0tigh the Sun broke out a neatly 400 feet below the Peak of the Mountain. We spent the Day skiing and enjoying the Sun and before we knew it the nun was gone. That evening we were sad because we did t have the Sun but Richer than most others i Europe because we know where the Sun was hiding Al the time. A word of caution Don t Gothere planning to steal the Sun because it knows what s going on. It will gladly lend a few warming rays but old sol re fuses to be stolen and remains very elusive to most of Europe. Sgt. A. R. Martindale a. Sgt. D. F. Henderson Fried Berg Germany i know where the Sun is itis shining brightly in Elpaso Texas the Sun City Home of the Sun bowl. Ruth Knod Nuernberg Germany basically anti military it is obvious to me that a Sis x basically anti military. The irony of course is that you newspaper was born out of the blood of men who died during world War ii. How Many gis know who Ernie Pyle wait your paper constantly put military per son n Al Down through your sarcastic an condescending editor s notes and the letters you do see ditto print always show military people at their uncontroversial Ordinary human Side. Your editing of the news Ison a Par with the imbalance of think you should All be have an excellent sports department. John s. Turne Izmir Turkey strike a blow for Good journalism Stop publishing the stars and . 5 Michael p. Gleason bad sibling Germany a Fine organization just a Short note to Praise Afine organization. It involves the Garmisch recreation area s learn to ski believe me it is for anyone who even has a Small desire to learn to ski. The instruction is top notch and even if you think you Are the most uncoordinated person in the world chances Are come Fri Day of the ski week you la be doing things on skis you never thought you could do. Also the accommodations the personnel the entire ski school staff Are the greatest. So take a leave your woodies a couple of pair of warm socks and head for Garmisch. Beginners intermediates and experts can learn to Start an continue on the right ski. To All those connected with arc and this program Many thanks for a wonderful you in March. Sgt. Ronald j. 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