European Stars And Stripes (Newspaper) - June 10, 1986, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Magazine Kivett interview William refrigerator Perry during her tenure at Johnny Cotton s Gitil halt. Joan Rivers by Bob Thomas associated press Joan rovers fans May have eared a ii  would retract her claws when she became the surrogate Johnny Carso not to worry. Me Mellow forgot it she sa/5. Sure. I lose a few targets like Liz Taylor but new ones me coming along All the Lime. Now i be got Feflie Ferguson you know. Prince Andrew s Fiancee and Sean Penn and Madonna marvelous Christie Brinkley Ideal i Taylor is out. Too thin. Jackie Onassis is out she s changed but think of All Ine new ones i can have fun  the Lis does t include Moa mar Qadhafi. I tried him she said i used a line that he looked like Jackie Onassis without the makeup. Nothing the audience was silent. You see. Not enough people know whal Qadhafi looks like. If they Don l have a picture in their minds they can t respond i had to Lake of my Cyndi Lauper jokes because people can t remember what she looks like. Madonna has taken  a major Lois to the Rivers joke file was Elizabeth Taylor she pierced her ears and Gravy came Oul she stands in front of a microwave oven and yells hurry " nol Only did she have the audacity to lose All that weight she also became friends with Joan. I Mel hat first Al an aids Benefit. Ihen at another for battered children Rivera said. Then she came to my House for dinner and she was Delight Lul. Hard feelings How could she have hard feelings when Sho looks the Way she does there will always be an England to provide victims for the Rivers Arsenal especially Queen Elizabeth i put a doily under the Kitty Licter. She was impressed. She look in Home Lor a Hiil " other Lavo Ritus include Nancy Reagan. Pence. Michael Jackson. Sophia Loren arid Joan risers on my wedding Tii Ghi. Edgar said lot me undo your billions i was nuked a the  a different View of Joan Rives is of firer in her aptly titled autobiography. Enter talking delacorte press s 17.95. Willon with Richard Meryman. In extraordinary detail she recalls her youth As a lit girl the total rejection As would be comic in the catskills her near starvation while trying to make in in Manhattan night spots. Enter raiding also Falls of Rivers lifelong struggle to win acceptance from tier Mother and father. Even though he was a prosperous doctor her lather refused to support her in a career of which he disapproved. When she burst into stardom on Trie tonight shown feb. 17, 1965, All her father could say was  the appearance with Carson climaxes the Book she rocked the audience Wilh such self deprecating cracks As when i d get an obscene phone Call i d say. Hold on a minute let me get a cigarette " Carson remarked on camera god you re funny. You re going to be a  Twenty years Laler Joan Rivers was serving As Carson s Only guest Host during his vacations. Ii Johnny had t made the Choice to put me on his show i might is ill be in Greenwich Village As the oldest living undiscovered female comic the 52-year-old comedian muses i would have had to wait or David Letterman to discover me. In those years there were two places where you could literally become a Star overnight Tho de Sullivan show and Ine Johnny Carson show. It does t happen any More even on Johnny s show. You have to be on tuesday june 10, 19s6 forget it 10 limes before you rosily make 11. Why has it changed i Don t inc maybe it s because there Aro so Many other sources of entertainment  she said. For instance we Lii ivs Coble and satellite on our television set. My Clicker does t Slop a Channel 13. It goes up to Channel 66." on the veranda of her sprawling Hillside Home Rivera spoke on a wide Range of matters mostly serious. Why she wrote the Book ii was a fabulous Era m show business when people Tike barbra Streisand Woody Allen. Richard Pryor mama chess and Dick Cavett were breaking in. H was a creative period bom in comedy find music. Rock was just starting then and one night i heard the first performance of amplified music in a Greenwich Village night  sexism in comedy i used to Sny that comedy was asexual thai it did t make any difference whether you were a Man or a woman. But when i was writing the Book. I said wait a minute that in t Rue i m always asked Why do you use Blue material i reply do you Ever ask Robin Williams that question o1 course  being Analysed. The Book was my psychoanalysis. I never Tasanai de and now i wish had been. I might have understood my Mother and lather better " her schedule am i too Busy no i d like to do More. Ever since my daughter went to College i be had much More time. I used to spend a lot of my time with Melissa. During the year. I play High weeks in Las vegas three a Lake Tahoe three in Atlantic City Anu i do a lol of one fighters. I love  Rivers recently signed to do her own late night talk show on Rupert Murdoch s Cable network. Abc consequently fired her from her remaining to weeks on the Abc com act. Johnny Carson is not talking. That s not Likely to Stop Rivers. The stars and stripes Page 13