European Stars And Stripes (Newspaper) - September 4, 1987, Darmstadt, Hesse Page 10 the stars and stripes Friday. September 4, 1987 status of Over age dependents discussed i would appreciate an acknowledge ment or and perhaps a solution to the problems faced by a not group of dependents in Europe. These individuals whose problems i have never seen addressed Are inc Chil Dren of Usa eur military and civilian employees who either because of mixed parental nationality or because icy have lived abroad for Many years consider Europe not inc United states their Home. Let me emphasis shul in is not an unpatriotic feeling bul rather lie natural result of living the majority if their Tor native years abroad and Unter the influence of another culture. In some cases these individuals have Only visited the United slates and have no established Home there. Under Usa eur regulation1, Chil Dren of military and civilian employees Are considered dependents until the age of ii or until age 23 if they arc enrolled in an accredited . College or univer sity bul not a european one. Considering the fact that a very limited Choice of american universities offer Complete degree programs in Europe inc Choice leu is Between going to the Stales or losing one s id card with All its privileges and the reduction of the Ensor s Cost of living allowance attending a european University Means the loss of All this. On the other hand attending a stateside school entails being separated from All hat is familiar often including family. Afler All it is easier and cheaper to phone or visit a child studying in Britain if the parents Are Liv ing in Germany in addition. She fact is whether the individual is going to school in the United states or Europe he parents will still be supporting him or her 1o some degree. With he loss of an id cant he Opportunity of obtaining a Job on base during the summer is made next to impossible. With an american passport in is also impassible to find a Job on the Economy. Any attempt to become self sufficient is thereby made very difficult. Finally when University is finished More Usa eur regulation impede the possibility of finding employment with inc . Government in Europe. In fact according in civilian personnel offices tourists have More employment status than these particular individuals who have lived in Europe and studied in Europe Dirac Fly or a diet try und a i in . Government a personal example is thai 1 was told 1 was Only eligible for local National Naf positions a great rarity apparently. The reasons he hand this Iiron a decision were i live been in Europe so Many years As to be considered a resident of Germany and 1 have not worked fur Llic . Government in Over two years a direct result of the id less situation Cre ated by existing regulations. Now unless 1 or the civilian personnel office Cho have been misinformed there scums to be a catch 22" situation in opera i inn. It can no longer be ignored Hal be cause of . Involvement in the euro Pean ii catch a crossbreed of people has been born. They feel at Home in tur pc. Possess american passports and arc not allowed to fit in anywhere. I strongly fed the government must Lake some responsibility for these individuals. Not Only docs a great Case of prejudice exist but also a Case of biting the hand that feeds it or Al least could help in. Is it not True that his group is perfectly placed to Bridge inc diplomatic Gap Between americans and europeans working together Michelle Lewis Homburg Saar editor s note we received two replies id Ihla Teller. The first a from Carolyn while civilian personnel Divi Sion office Al the Deputy chief of staff personnel Hyu Sakek As the writer Stales he children of military members and civilian employees h to litre reached the the of 23 ire placed in different position As it relates to obtaining employment with the . Forces in the overseas area. The difference comes about because they were previously considered As family member for employ ment purposes but upon reaching the age of 23 they can no longer be considered in this category of applicant. This if established department of defense and department of the army policy although Ailiese children Are not consid ered As family members for employment purpose they can still be considered far employment with other Nan family Mem Ber applications wham the writer refers la As tourists. These children Anil tourists have equal employment Al Ali. The change from family member o non family member status has three major impacts on employment. They arc 1. They Are no longer eligible for prefer ence in employment 2. They a Anent be appointed to positions designated for local nationals and 3. They become subject a restriction on employing individuals who Are ordinarily resident. though they became ineligible far an identification card due to the toss of family member stains they Are not restricted from obtaining employment. Once Liry Are employed they became eligible for an identification card based on their personal employment status. One important Factor to consider is thai the children must obtain employment with the is. Forces within one year after losing family member status if not they will be considered As ordinarily resident. Another Factor is they will also be consid ered ordinarily resident if they obtain work permit during the one year period. Ordinarily residents Are individuals who have resided in t country in be Over seas am far one year or More without Salahas As a member of the Force or civilian component or an individual who has obtained a work permit. This employment restriction governs employment in appropriated Trind jobs paid by . Tax dollars. When the children you refer to Are no longer recognized As dependents because of age they Art no longer considered to be dependents accompanying members of the Force or civilian component. Accordingly they acquire tourist status. Editor s not the St Imd reply ii from or. Edward Seluke i or St net Jar Reva Rran ii personnel err ices support division 111 personnel Cit a ii a Karkur 1 appreciate the Opportunity to clarify the Issue regarding attendance at foreign institutions of higher learning by dependents of Usa eur military and civil Ian employees. In the definition of institution of higher learning contained in a 640 3, identification cards tags and badges is included those foreign educational institutions which offer a course leading to a Standard College degree or the equivalent and which Are recognized As such by the Secretary of education or comparable official of the country or other jurisdiction in which the ins Llull Terni is located fur example in the Federal Republic of Germany schools of higher learning Are licensed by the Stales. This licensing is equated to accreditation of american colleges and universities. All institutions of higher learning Wilh the exception of colleges Are state supported. They arc therefore accredited and Stu dents May generally continue to receive full privileges until the age of 23. Other european countries have similar meth ods for accrediting their institutions of higher learning. The documentation required to sup port the application for a student id card is contained in a 640-3. Local military personnel offices and civilian personnel offices hit Vic applicants on obtain ing appropriate documentation if there a a doubt As to the accreditation of a school id card issuing officials an required to Contact 1st personnel come to determine accreditation prior to issuing a student id cant. Questions on civilian transfers answered Daisy plans criticized i have contacted three pos and have received Dif Ferent answers from each for the following questions. I As a department of army civilian hired state sideshow do i apply for an intr theater Transfer to either another base in Germany or elsewhere in Europe 1, How do 1 apply for an Infra service Transfer for example from the department of the army to depart ment of the air Force 3. Does the department of the air Force have a Central civilian personnel office for the United King Dom England Scotland ? also a there a Central air Force co for Germany name and location withheld editor s note we received two replies to this letter. The first is from Carolyn while civilian person Nel division office of the Deputy chief of staff personnel i in Sabeur flunks for the Opportunity to address application procedures in Europe. The first question the writer asks is How Don a department of army civilian hired from the United Stales apply for in Intra healer Transfer to either another base in Germany or elsewhere id Europe these employees apply for other department of army positions in Europe Chr ooh the Usa eur civilian recruitment Center Chc. The Center recruits for career program intern wed most other is. A Tinea positions a Europe. Employees interested in being considered for Thatte positions should address i civilian recruitment Center Elk usar eur attn Abaca arc Apo by 09403. The second question is How do Yon apply for an Intra service Transfer to move from one Agency to another Agency individuals mint apply directly to the civilian pc Anjul alike of the Agency or activity in which they Art seeking employment. The last question is is there a Central department of the air Force co for the United kingdom and Ger Many the answer is that unlike Usa eur which has a Central recruitment office for certain positions the air Force does not individuals interested in working for the air Force in the United kingdom and Germany must apply at the co on the base where employment is desired. The second reply is front col. . I Toga mini Deputy chief of staff personnel he Usan k we regret the writer has been unable to obtain consistent information on civilian transfers. In All fairness however in would be unreasonable to expect an army civilian personnel office to know air Force policies and procedures and vice versa. The air Force generally uses a decentralized system for recruitment meaning each civilian personnel office does its own recruitment there is no Central co for either Germany or England. Air Force use a variety of recruitment meth ods depending on the Job and the area of consideration. For some jobs the area of consideration May be limited to those in the local area for others the area May be air Force wide and for Many All candidates Are considered. What All this Means to the writer As a current army employee is Hal he or she May apply for Infra healer Transfer to any air Force co by sending a application of 171 directly to the pos servicing the area s of jocks he or she will accept. If thai co has positions that the person has applied for and the applicant would be in the area of consideration the application is retained on file and the person notified accordingly. If not the application would be returned with a Brief explanation e.g., there Are no positions Al Hal location for which the person can be consid Rcd. For the address of air Force pos. The writer should ask his or her servicing array co to see Hod manual 1400.20-2-m counselling manual for the i had program for stability of civilian employ ment. I read the recent announcement about Daisy manufacturing co s plan to Market its line of replica guns. I am gratified by their concern but i Sec three things wrong with their mentioned plans the news article stated that Daisy manufacturing co., inc world s largest maker of by guns monday said it is adding bold International Orange markings to its full scale replicas of military fire arms to identify the guns As i remember read ing inc safety warnings in several Daisy instruction manuals this is not o toy. Do not Point your Daisy by gun at an animal or another try As you might you cannot make the markings big and Bright enough to be seen by police officers under stress several dozen Plain Tolches police officer have been killed by other police officers despite the open display of big shiny badges or other visual identification the unfortunate police officers saw Only the dead Man s gun and shot to protect themselves from an armed then there is something that Daisy cannot really be held responsible for the abuse by criminals of a safety marking the company has established. Just paint a fake decal on a stolen m16 or a Black Market a and walk unopposed to the place of crime. It s easy because everyone knows that Daisy guns Aren t really firearms. 11 Falls Inlo the same category As putting on a police style in is abuse of a recognized Symbol for criminal gain. There is no substitute for Good sense. Parents Are responsible for their children because the children Haven l matured. Unfortunately Many parents Haven t grown up yet either. Staff sgt. Alan Cranford
