European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - November 20, 1992, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Page 12 Friday november 20,1992letters to the  risks european gtd lion col Gene t Townsend Usan commander publisher Bernard a. Zov1stosk1 editor news and editorial Quot Chi Walker european editor Deborah Kabahar Paul Cuby nows editor acting City editor Bob Wicker George mane sports editor special sections editor to write us unit 29480 Apoate 09211 or Postrach 11 14 37 6100 Darmstadt 11, Germany news Tel fax 06155-601416 to Call us dial 06155-601 plus Extension or ets 348-8 plus Extension As follows news ext. 237,255, 282,226,326. Sports ext 225, 269,263,332,321,221. Features ext. 230,245,341. Letters to editor ext. 208. Education Jim Jones ext. 226. Business news ext. 326. News bureaus Kaiserslautern Germany Kevin Dougherty John Bohmer Sieve scholar building 2b99, Pulaski Barracks Apo a 09227-3717 Tot phone ets 4894585 or civilian 0631-52104 Tel fax 0631-50698. Nurnberg Germany Ron Jensen building 21. William o. Derby Cavern Apo a 09222 Telephone ets 4607258 or civilian 0911-712563. Heidelberg Germany Joseph Owen european stars and stripes City cask unit 29480, Apo 09211 Telephone ets 340-8237 or civilian 0615s-eoi237. Wurzburg Germany Call main office in Darmstadt. Brussels Belgium Rosemary Sawyer to . Embassy pc b2, Box 002, Apo a 09724 Telephone civilian 0032-22380967 Tel fax 0032-22309088. Mediterranean j. King Cruger and Gary Miller Naples. Italy Asa Box 56. Fpo 09521 Telephone ets 625-4880 or civilian 0039-81-7824049. New Vork City Timothy Caw. Room 638. 201 Verlock St. New Vork 10014 Telephone 212-620-3333. United Mcgoom Mur Famh Winder end Nitcy Tomer. Building 464 Cess us Raf mild Ethel Apo a 09459 Telephone sow 238-2228 or civilian 0838-512226. Washington . Chuck Vinch Ray Rowden Oast a. The Pentagon room 2e756 . Box 46095, Washington . 200506095 Telephone 703-6976695 Tel fax 703-6936366. Business departments Christopher a. Eddings gone Rel manager Dale Estes now Papor operations director Merle Kohl Nocki production manager James Wysocky circulation manager Chris Ryan comptroller circulation for Conven Lont Home delivery service and inquiries Call one of the 24-Nour foil free numbers listed below Germany 0130-840048 Belgium 07811-8775 italy1678-7-3456 United kingdom 0-800-898854 Netherlands 06-0227629 Spain 900-99-4955 main office unit29480 Postrach it 1437 Apo a 09211 or 6100 Darmstadt 11, Gormany circulation Tel fax 06155-601436 Germany Augsburg civilian 0821-443254. Ber in civilian 030-8331846, ets 332-3548. Bremerhaven clan 047165168, ets 342-8119. Kaiserslautern civilian 0631-57070 or 57079, ets 489-7100, Tel fax 0631 -50690. Nurnberg civilian 0911-712558. Ets 460-7001. Stuttgart civilian 0711-546743, ets 420-7175. Italy Naples civilian 003981-5665306, ets 625-5306 Vicenza civilian 0444-515358, ets 634-7545, Tel fax 0444-300-641. Spain Madrid. Ets 665-5807, civilian and Lela Fox 00341 -6561465. Turkey Istanbul civilian and Tel fax 0090-1-1724843. United kingdom Cirencester civilian 0265-713-637, Dan 247-4445. Advertising display Germany 06155-601247 or 601309, ets 3486247 classified Germany 06155-601349, ets 348-8349 advertising Tel fax 06155-601412 a please Recycle a tin newspaper is an authorised unofficial publication Tor members of i he military services overseas. Contents it the stars and stripes do not necessarily reflect the of Izaal views of or endorsement by. The . Government the department of defense or the . European commard. The appearance of advertising in this publication. Including inserts or supplements does not constitute endorsement by the department of defense or the stars and stapes of the products or services advertised. Everything advertised in this publication shall be made available Tor Purchase use or patronage without regard to race odor religion sex National origin age mantel status physical Handicap poetical affiliation or any other no Mem Lector of the purchaser user or  lesson in bigotry when 1 saw the Story about Ethel Hagans the Black american who was re fused service in a German cafe in kit zing ii Germany t knew t had to write immediately Quot the treatment of Hagans by that wait Ress was insulting and humiliating but May not have been solely because she is Black i say this because almost the same thing happened to me recently i m not Only Quot not Black but blonde Blue eyed and very frequently mistaken for German while staving a few Days at arc Chic see with some visiting family members from the states we went into the nearby town of Prien. We were walking near the train station when my Mother in Law sister in Law 11-year-old daughter and i came across a Lovely looking gift shop. Looking at the window display my Mother in Law saw several items that interested her As possible gifts to bring to people Back Home. We decided to go in and see what else there was. The moment we walked through the door we were stopped by the shopkeeper who asked us something urgent sounding in German. Not understanding i politely asked in German if he spoke English. He did and said Quot what do you want Quot a Little taken Aback we replied we did t know yet and would like to look around the shop. He said Quot no. I Don t like americans looking in my shop. They do not buy  perplexed i asked him How we could choose gifts without looking around the shop. He said a no americans looking in my shop.  he abruptly herded us out the door. Of course we were stunned insulted and later angry to have been thrown out for no crime or offence other than being americans. We were polite quiet Ana Well dressed so 1 know that nothing about our appearance or behaviour Coula have prompted such treatment. Your article said it May be Legal in Germany to discriminate against people based on nationality. If that is so then perhaps German shopkeepers restaurateurs and others would do Well to Post a list outside their premises showing which nationalities will or will not be accepted and served. Or better yet just order All those of Quot undesirable Quot nationality to leave the country. Personally leaving the country would suit me just Fine. A Sarah Byrnes Frankfurt German Pagan replies this is in response to the letter suggesting that certain groups should not be permitted to use the to Gelwich recreation Center first the group is the Pagan support group not a witchcraft coven As stated. There arc covens in the Kaiserslautern area and members do attend the Pagan support group meetings but they Are not the same. All witches Are pagans but not All pagans Are witches. Second the writer assumes that pagans arc some sort of bad influence on children. 1 can Only speak for myself and fellow wiccan the preferred name for the religion of witches but ours is a non Christian nature based religion. We respect the Sanctity of life and our Basic Law is Quot do what you will but harm no  we do not conduct sacrifices animal or human. We recognize also that Good and evil exist together in the world. We do not believe in an All Good god. Nor do we believe in an ail bad god called satan or the Devil by christians. How could we worship that which we do not believe exists i m a service member. In the oath i took when entering the military \ swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United states of America. The first amendment to that Constitution guarantees the freedoms of religion and Assembly. 1 think that an american who does not uphold that Constitution is More of a threat to morale than a few pagans getting together in the local acc Center. A Ivy Nelson Kaiserslautern Germany editor s note letters from readers expressing their viewpoints or opinions Are published daily in this space. All letters must be signed we Reserve the right to edit letters for clarity length and taste. Preference is Given to Shorter letters so that More can be published in a timely manner. Letters should be signed and include address and Telephone number. Address letters to letters to the editor the stars and stripes unit 29480, Apo a 09211. Too letters requesting information or assistance Are answered in a feature called readers action line which normally appears every Day except thursday and sunday. Letters should be signed and include address and Telephone number. Address such letters to readers action line the stars and stripes unit 29480, Apo a 09211.seeks tolerance in a ban occult meetings Quot the writer declares that the recreation Center should be off limits to certain groups a in this Case the Pagan support group since it Quot in no Way edifices the morale of our Sci remembers or their  she continues with supposition that the recreation Center should also screen the use of its facility More closely and hints at a fear that children would not be Safe at the Center during these meetings. The general function of the Center is to provide a facility for use by the whole Community and not just a select few. The meetings of the Pagan support group Edify the morale of those of us who Are members of the various Pagan religions by giving us a forum where we might meet together lend one another support and have an Opportunity to educate the Public on exactly what we Are. Children Are Safe when they enter the Center on the Days that the support group meets. We Are not out to a steal Quot children nor Are we seeking converts. We Only seek tolerance of our beliefs from others. Making the Center off limits to the support group or any other group for that matter would directly conflict with two of the Basic freedoms we enjoy under the . Constitution a Freedom of religion and Assembly a sgt. Thomas d. Van Hook Sembach a Germany a a article criticized the article Quot two Thurso sailors Quot was a horridly inaccurate account of the actual interview. Your reporter asked both Mai Petty officer 1st class Teu Dora Hicks and me several personal questions then started asking us questions regarding the base and local area. He left out a lot of our responses and indeed has left us both looking As if we Are terribly unhappy with our present tour. Mai Hicks stated that because she is the Only Mai on Board she is gaining a wealth of experience. She also said that because we Are isolated the mar department provides Low to no Cost trips to Points of interest or just for shopping Down South. 1 was asked questions regarding base population my thoughts on draw Downs taking place and the local population. In the Short time i have been on Board Navy Omista naval communications station United kingdom i have made a lot of friends local nationals i live in the local Community among them not in the Barracks and i do believe the current draw Downs will improve the military. We will learn to be More efficient with both our time and our resources. Both Mai Hicks and 1 Are experiencing a challenging and unique Opportunity to Widen our military expertise in our chosen career Fields because of this tour and i am sorry that i could not spend my originally planned three year tour Here because this country is Beautiful the people Are Friendly Ana the work is challenging. A Sherrie a scale Thurso Scotland a sexual assault promoted the Navy has at its disposal far More powerful methods of stopping sexual assault than censorship of explicit magazines. The answer is not to step on the first amendment but to cause service Mem ers to identify themselves with their female counterparts and women in general. First women have to be seen As their Peers their equals. That Means women must be allowed to hold the most highly respected jobs in the Navy. Second men need to be sensitized to the effects of sexual assault on women not just told that its not tolerated. When one woman in three women is sexually assaulted it should be easy enough to put the face of a Serviceman a wife daughter sister or co worker on the generic assault survivor we re now presented with. Right now a Serviceman who says that he identifies with women. That we have the same capabilities he has and that he has the same feelings we have a would be stigmatized. As Long As the services promote menus non identification with women they Are promoting sexual assault. Pc. Leigh Curry Raf Chicksands England a longer Nap for papa pig i was Reading the comics for kids in the sunday paper. The part the pig Glys. The question says papa pig Only slept for 2v4 hours. How Many minutes did be sleep you have the answer 135 minutes. Maybe i am Reading it wrong.  it have been 165 minutes two hours 120 minutes plus it hours 45 minutes. A James e. Wills Sandhofer Germany editor s note you Are Correct. The answer should have been 165 minutes. C pen pals t m a 54-year-Otd turkish woman and would Ilka to have american pan wend my hobble include Reading writing poetry coping and listening to music. Dilsat Akyuz Ziya Pasa blvd. 309 Sok Kyui Apt Kat 2 no. 8 01130 Adana Turkey i m 10 years old and would like american pen pals. I like sports soul and rap music and going dancing. Sanlei Heinze Hans Hemberger 41 6056 Heussenstamm Germany i m 37 year old and would like pen pals. I speak Ger ame rom Neh would a Hoo to practice English with an Martina bosc settler 1b5 route do pot gone 67100 Strasbourg France would like pin pats my age from a a life Mcke Ruto Reading writing and talking. 6 Montgomery ave. Unstead 90 is. Catherine Jamaica. . P3 from around the world. I like cooking and listening to music. A Joan r. Delaney 506 Ancoin ave. Fox River Grove ill. 60021 Umit i Are old a wow be pen pais my age world-1? Ufko letters and meeting new people. I also Sass bss9,801,19 to the Beach j1 a Cheryl Young 149 Ridge St St. John new Brunswick e2j2m4 Canada