European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - November 14, 1994, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Spy specialist Philip Knightley says the end results of cold War espionage were not Worth the Money and lives involved. Herbert Helle Broich says West Germany s democratic spymaster Markus Wolf says briton Kim Philby and principles put restrictions on his agents that the East american Aldrich Ames provided fast Germany with germans did t have to Deal with. Better information than he did. Continued from Page 20 everything Topaz delivered in the mid-1970s indicated a More relaxed atmosphere Between East and West and the Hope for More Reform in the East but our politicians in East Germany Seldom used the information we delivered in their policy making. They remained rigid ideologists. That s when i decided that our work was in vain and offered my  Wolf is currently appealing a sentence for treason handed Down after German unification. Wolf s defense is that he cannot be tried for betraying West Germany because he worked for the East German government. Clearly a Case of the victors out for revenge Wolf said. Even his Western counterpart Helle Broich has gone on record claiming it was unconstitutional to bring Wolf to trial and found no moral difference Between the act of spying for a free country and a dictatorship if no one was murdered or other crimes against humanity were committed Helle Broich was defensive about the reputation of the West German intelligence services As being a Bunch of bumbling fools the Keystone kops of espionage. Democratic rules hindered us from doing what a service in a dictatorship could do but we had our successes also Helle Broich said we had Werner Stiller the former Star Man. When he came West we were Able to arrest 17 people and pick up almost 100 suspects accused of working Here for the East. And in 1968 we were Able to Tell that the movement of the soviet forces were not aimed at the West but at  Gerster quickly challenged Helle Broich and said that the West owed the last piece of information to the services of the israeli intelligence services and not to any intelligence gathering of its own. The room was electrified for a moment when former Kab agent Oleg Gordievsky stood up in the audience to ask Sheb Arshin Why  penalty the soviet Union pronounced on him in absent a is still in effect. Sheb Arshin who earlier displayed a considerable sense of humor became deadly serious and told Gordievsky that he would not discuss the matter with traitors Gordievsky Kab chief in the soviet embassy in London came out of the cold there in 1985 after working As a double agent for British intelligence since 1974. His double role was revealed by Cia employee Ames. In May 1985, Gordievsky was ordered Back to Moscow were he was faced with charges of being a British agent. Gordievsky did t break even under the influence of interrogation drugs. He was then put in a Kab Gordievsky sanitarium for observation. He received permission to visit his wife in Moscow and during that time managed to signal the British that he wanted out of the soviet Unior. They sneaked him across the soviet finnish Border in a sealed truck. Since then Gordievsky claims he has lived in fear of assassination despite the collapse of the soviet Union. Asked about wet business agent speak for bloody affairs or murders Sheb Arshin who retired from the Kab three years ago waved his hands and claimed there were never any murders or cases of extortion during his reign during in the cold War. The cold War was a dirty War but there Are rules to this game that both sides adhered to he claimed. They Are no murders no kidnaps and no extortion although most agencies did t adhere to the  Sheb Arshin said they used the Power of persuasive arguments to convince the unwilling that it was in their Best interest to work with the Kab. Some worked for us because they were idealists the majority worked for the Money and the High life Money could  Sherb Arshin claimed that today we have no trouble motivating people to work for us because there Are Many who Are not satisfied with things As they Are now in Russia. And not All these people Are in Russia. Our work in the past was t totally in  Sheb Arshin said he did not want any former East German spies in his service. They were too much in the limelight after the Wall came Down. But that was three years ago i Don t know what my successors have done. I Hope they followed my advice he said. 7 Schalk Colokowski insisted that he was not a spy but that his Job was that of a middleman who knew How to get hard currency and sorely needed materials an machines for a failing East German Economy. Schalk Colokowski described How he went West when the Wall fell was wrung out like wet Wash by the German  and then cast to the courts to face charges of illegal doings. " Mikhail Gorbachev Eduard Shevardnadze an bins Yeltsin Are on tour picking up heroes medals wherever they go while we East germans tour the courts for treason Schalk Colokowski said. 22 the stars and stripes monday november 14,1994