European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - September 21, 1967, Darmstadt, Hesse                              Page 6 the stars and stripes thursday september 21, 1967 told them bombing halt Only condition for talks . Journalists found to Active and keen9 editor s note William , editor of the Miami news visited North Vietnam last Winter with Harry s. Ash More executive vice president of the Center for the study of democratic institutions and former prize winning news paper editor. In the following article Baggs reveals for the first time details of a Conversa Tion he and Ashmore had with to Chi Minh president of North Vietnam. A by William c. Bagg Miami Fla. A word came in the afternoon that Hochi mirth wished to see us. His office is in the frayed ele Gance of the Palace which once accommodated the governor when France ruled Indochina. The old gentleman was certainly prompt. We were ushered into a rather Small room Deco rated Only with a single paint ing of a Brownish eagle1andwe had not seated ourselves when he came in walking in mixture of a stride and a  English and with not much accent to said please forge protocol. Please feel at  before arriving in Hanoi Ash More and i had picked up conflicting stories about to the approaching 77. One Story was that he was feeble. The other Story was that he remained Active and keen. And the Latte Story appeared to be the accurate  and Coffee cookies and fruit were served and hos Moked steadily on his cigarettes. He complained that his physician had told him he should quit smoking the cigarettes but he was not going to worry about hurting himself with cigarettes at his age. After a few minutes of other social conversation to Chi Minh asked if we could talk among  it was this $10,000 okd for woman jailed 8 years Washington up the House passed by voice vote tues Day and sent to the Senate a Pri vate Relief Bill to pay mrs. Sophie Michalowska of Balti More $9,940.31 dollars in Back pay for the time she was imprisoned in Poland while serving As an employee of the state department. Mrs. Michalowska was arrested by polish police on dec. 6, 1947, at the american embassy in Warsaw. She was charged with subversive and treasonable activities and sentenced to 12 years in prison. William Macomber jr., assist ant Secretary for congressional relations in the state depart ment said the department is convinced that she was arrested and imprisoned because of her employment by the .  after serving eight years  was released in 1956. She emigrated to the United states in 1963. Change of habit four nuns have a Ballat candlestick Park in san Francisco As they come out to say hey at the giants Cap Day. Two get into the spirit of things by wearing the team hats and one sister goes All the Way with a creation in indescribable Orange. Up lbs takes too much Power senators told impeach Johnson witness suggests Washington up the Senate foreign relations com Mittee was told tuesday that president Johnson simply does not have the constitutional pow ers which he claims Are  another witness suggested that the president should be impeached for his actions in Viet Nam. The discussion took place in a . Family draws lots of attention Woodmere . A five year old Jodi Levine win Ner of $100,000 in the new Yor state lottery last month is in the running for the Jackpot again. A ticket bearing her name was pulled monday from among the 5.9 million in the drawing  month just Over four Mil lion tickets were in the  ticket also bore the names of the rest of the Levine family sister Debbie 3 brother James 2 and parents Gerald an Faith. Last month Levine said he Duse the $100,000 for the education of his children and two Youn cousins. If we win the big one again he said tuesday ill not Only be Able to provide for their Edu cation but take care of their marriages and a bar Mitzvah  hearing on a Resolution calling for a definition of National com  witnesses were two octogenarians 80-year-old Alber Levitt of Hancock n.h., retired . District judge and professor of constitutional Law and 81 year old George Montross of de troit retired businessman who has made a life Long Hobby of the study of government and the .  said the Resolution is greatly needed now because president Lyndon Johnson has claimed and is now claiming that he has the Power and the authority to make National commitments by the United states to foreign Powers even though those commitments violate the  Montross went even further the impeachment provision is available he  Wayne Morse one of the Senate s leading enemies of the president s actions in Viet Nam said he agreed with All of the witnesses statements except that one. I have made a careful study Morse said and i do not be Lieve there is any basis for impeachment of the president on the Vietnam Issue. I think impeachment involves an extremely limited set of facts regarding presidential conduct that Borders on treason and there is no slightest basis for that action in this  think or. Johnson is vulnerable in this regard Mon Tross argued. You believe that ignoring or violating the Constitution is tantamount to treason sen. J.  dark asked. Proving treason is not Neces sary Montross said. A presi Dent May also be impeached for High crimes and  youth bites hand that freed him Atlanta up one of 153youths released on pledges of Good behaviour from a Reform school by gov. Lester Maddox was charged with burglary Mon Day and bound Over to Superior court  f. Gibson 17, was serv ing a three year sentence for automobile larceny at Alto Institute when he was freed Les than two weeks ago in a Pilot project to release juvenile of fenders with Good records. Gibson and another youth we rearrested last thursday out Side an Atlanta grocery that had been robbed. Officers said stolen property was found in their pos session. The 153 youths were freed in ceremony at the Capitol pre sided Over by Maddox. The signed pledges not to break the Law or drink liquor. Maddox said he was sticking my neck out Foi  suggestion that the talks be private that has prevented re porting of the conversation until now. Recent disclosures of the vital parts of the talk have re moved the prohibition. Ashmore and i emphasized tour Host that we could talk but we pointed out that anything he said in the conversation would be reported to our  stressed that we did not rep resent the United states but were pledged to report the conversation in detail to washing ton. He nodded. There was no possibility of peace talks he said until the bombing of North Vietnam stopped. And tapping his Fin Gers together he said no new american troops should be introduce into Vietnam during any peace talks. Well then we asked could talks begin if the United states stopped the bombing he measured the question with much care and said you Are a businessman and i am businessman and i want to see the goods before the Price is  during this portion of the conversation to spoke in English and through an interpreter i French and vietnamese. Twice More we asked if talks could really begin if the bomb ing were concluded. And twice to said that talks could begin if the bombing  communist Leader involved in the nationalism of his country for almost half a Century said that we and All Ameri cans should realize that his country had been at War for 25years, against the japanese and the French and the americans and they would never surrender their Independence after so Longa struggle. Moreover he continued com ing Back to the subject of peace talks he had no conditions for such talks except an end to the bombing. The meetings could be private or Public he said and no Agenda was necessary. No volunteers the word volunteers was mentioned. To said that North Vietnam did not need any Volun Teers from foreign countries at the time. He added that Volun Teers would be invited into the country if the time arrive when they were needed. He did not refer to the chinese at anytime. To referred to the bombing Sall through the conversation. He admitted the bombings Hurt North Vietnam but pointed out that the bombings did not unreasonably hamper the military ability of the  he paused thought for a moment and said we would Welcome Ameri cans if they came Here As technicians to help us. We would Welcome Lyndon Johnson As tourist. But now the americans Are coming to kill and get killed. This is a shameful  had crawled Over Hanoi when we left the Palace. We had talked two hours. Lit that a Mim How  you to a00ut44 1 a a /