European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - May 04, 1978, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Age 8 the stars ant stripes shot in he Arm for nato thursday May 4, 1978 a a naval Exchange working out by i an Synovic Brenir Haven Bureau chid Kiel. Germany iss so the v s. And St German naval personnel Exchange program officer said  technician surface co William hied ii. A i  name of Waco. A. Who Lias served on the German de. Over i 1x3 Lor the past two years said group of american naval personnel re Sis on warships and ill on Shore duty e not in Kiel to drink cocktails i m not assigned Here As an adviser her said heed. I m part of the de Royce  1 earning process heed said he has Learned More about Nar working in the Baltic and North sea Iti sub Marine warfare environment iring the past 24 months than in 15 years i the Navy. Lie also serves As the Antisubmarine airfare weapons chief on Board the Amer an built destroyer sold to West Germany i the late 1950s, is the destroyer s depart enl chief of the weapons division and Mains enlisted German sailors. We work with american Huilt sonar id computer equipment that is tied into i Man made weapons systems modified r shallow water combat  eed said. I really believe my Job and assignment Are Are worthwhile i Don t think anti sub i irme warfare at my level is stressed Asch As it should be. I be hrs h d train her German sailors who have gone to her ships and may.1 one Day will come chief  heed said he has trained about 50 Carman sailors in anti submarine War ire. The commander of the destroyer. Cape. Ermann ,a from Coblenz. Said his up profits from having a trained  technician on Board. We have what you might Call a Brown Ater or shallow water Navy said Auer. And we arc working in special Indi inns in the Baltic and North seas. Our operations Are a lot More limited Lan those of the i a. Navy. But having s. Navy personnel on Board gives us More knowledge about deep water what in would Call Blue water warfare Andoire Complex naval operations. Shallow water1 experience for  he said we have no sex i Riunec working with aircraft carriers Hile on the other hand. Americans can Arn about shallow water operations from Fleet cmdr. Chris g. Slebos. A 33-Ycar d native of Chicago has spent 24 months the Pep Exchange program on boards destroyer dd25 As the combat info  Center officer. Slebos said German destroyers  . Sonar equipment to enhance Weir anti submarine warfare capabilities we spend 30 to 40 percent of our Lime at  Slebos said Palm Hong the Baltic id North seas. The patrols last about one Elk and often we observe Warsaw pact Ival operations. The Warsaw pact  very Busy in the  Slebos. Who returns to the states soon and the idea behind Pep is to Swap ideas a Tummy to  with Shore based fighter bomber an maritime patrol aircraft i Auer said that heed is the Best trained  Duel in  division of four destroyers.  i Auer said has had a lot of experience in detecting submarines and evaluating sonar contacts. With a Well trained Man like heed. 1 have the Possich to of training my own Crew better. Anti submarine warfare asm is Milf full and frustrating and if you want results Vou need Well trained people. Chiel heed has been a great help " another enlisted i a. Pep member is chief signalman Hod c. Davis a .14-year old native of Virginia Beach. A. Who has been assigned to the dd22 for 15 months. Davis said that he has been completely integrated with the German destroyer Crew. We get along together real Well. This is a great  Davis said. I pc gone to ports not frequently Navy ships. And Kiel is a g