European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - September 10, 1985, Darmstadt, Hesse                                A Page 28 i / the stars and stripes tuesday september 10, 1985 Botha warns Whites against meeting Johannesburg South Africa a . Boll i said sunday in would be disloyal for a group of this country s leading business executives to meet with the african National Congress and flatly rejected talks with the outlawed Black guerrilla movement. In new violence police reported that they killed two Blacks overnight during fierce anti apartheid rioting near Cape town. Police said earlier they killed one Black As youths ram paged through Cape town s Gug Ulutu Black township Fol lowing a funeral saturday for 11 riot victims. Later they said police shot a second Black Man to death. Thai brought to at least 31 the toll of people killed around Cape town since the government banned an aug. 28 March demanding the release of Nelson Mandela for Mer Anc president imprisoned 21 years ago for plotting sabotage. Two police officers were injured in the Gug Ulutu Vio Lence that killed the two Blacks aged 19 and 28, police said. Rapport a afrikaans sunday newspaper which sup ports the White minority government reported that top South african business people will go to Lusaka Zambia for talks with Anc leaders. It said president Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia helped organize the talks and that Gavin rally will Lead the executives. Relly is head of Anglo american South Africa s largest mining Corpora Tion. English language newspapers have carried similar re ports. Rally s office has refused comment. Reports have also said the executives will go to Lusaka with Botha s Blessing. Botha acknowledged in a statement issued in the Capi Tal Pretoria that a leading South african suggested the plan to him a few weeks ago. He did not identify the  strongly advised against  said Botha. As Long As the Anc is under communist leadership and support violence in South Africa there can be no question of me approving discussions with  Botha added i regard such attempts As unwise and even disloyal to the Young men who Are sacrificing their lives in defending South Africa s  Mandela s successor As Anc Leader Oliver Tambo was quoted As saying in an interview with the sunday times of London that violence will be carried into White areas to make apartheid unworkable  the struggle must spread beyond the boundaries of the Black ghettos to the White areas. It is spreading in All sorts of ways. It will continue to spread until it engulfs the whole country he was quoted As saying. Coup from Page 1 smoke Rose from the compound As reporter scrambled for cover. Abc Bangkok Bureau chief Neil Davis an australian was killed in the Street fight ing that followed the announcement of the coup a network executive said in Tokyo. Bruce Macdonnell Abc s general Man Ager for Asia and the Pacific said that sound Man William Latch an american also was killed but later told the associated press that the network was receiving conflicting reports and that it was Uncertain whether Latch had died. Earlier in a broadcast Over the official army radio the acting army commander Gen. Tienchai Siri Sumphan and Navy cmdr. Nipon Giridhara ordered All servicemen to re main at their bases or return immediately indicating they were opposed to the rebels. The radio Thailand broadcasts said the rebel officers called themselves the revolutionary party and they had acted be cause of the seriously deteriorating Situa Tion of the  they warned the army and police not to interfere. A later broadcast said Serm had assumed the position of supreme commander of the armed forces. In Jakarta a grim faced prom continued his official schedule meeting monday morn ing with indonesian president Suharto at Mardeka Palace. Suharto ignored the tradition of allowing other officials to meet with a visiting state guest before beginning on on one talks and escorted Prem directly to a conference room for a private discussion. Prom was scheduled to leave for Home on a special air Force plane at noon after meet ing with Suharto but Thailand s ambassador to Indonesia Ronget Sucha Ritzul said later the prime minister would wait until the situation was Clear before returning Home. Prom s armed forces commander Gen. Archit Kara land Elk also was out of the country touring Western Europe. Military sources in Bangkok said the rebel leaders were based at the offices of the armed forces supreme coins while officers Loyal to the government were Gath ering at the Lith inf regt on the outskirts of Bangkok. Soldiers moved against prom on april 1, 1981, seized the National radio station and announced they were taking Over the government because of corruption. Prem marshalled his forces at a Northern army base moved Back into the capital a few Days later and retook control. Budget from Page 1 gave Way to the higher Overall Senate Bud get figure. The House negotiators led by rep. Los Aspin d-wis., chairman of the armed services committee also gave in to the Senate on a number of other items including restrictions on producing new chemical weapons and proposed reforms of the Way the Pentagon spends Money. Shortly before beginning a monthlong re Cess the Senate voted approval of the con Ference committee Bill. Aspin and other House leaders confidently predicted easy House approval after the recess. Our projections showed it winning pretty handily said one House source. But Schumir and other democrats upset that the Senate position prevailed have continued to lobby for support of the lower budget figure leading to last week s Deci Sion by the chamber s leadership to permit the vote on the s292 billion budget. House speaker Thomas p. O Neill jr., d-mass., conceded last week that there is no question that the smaller budget would be approved. Aspin had conceded the same thing Tell ing reporters shortly before the recess that a $292 billion budget would pass no ques Tion. With everyone worried about the Defi Cit who would vote against it if the lower budget figure is approved by the House and the resulting conference committee drags on past oct. 1 As expected the Pentagon could begin the fiscal year without a formal budget. Instead it would be allowed to spend Money through a congressional procedure known As a continuing Resolution which permits Federal agencies to operate without Navy from Page 1 just barely squeaked by to meet that goal of 823. And now it s going up  officer agreed to disclose the Navy s Pilot objectives and their Impact on recruit ers on condition he not be identified. The new goal he said has driven Home to recruiters that they be got to do a better Job explaining the Navy has an air Force and it s a big  higher recruiting goal however also underlines a problem that was first spot lighted by Navy officials in february de Clining Pilot retention rates blamed on a stronger Economy and increased hiring by commercial . James d. Watkins chief of naval operations and Navy Secretary John f. Leh Man or. Testified during budget hearings last Winter the Navy was starting to lose experienced pilots at an accelerating rate. After rising from 42 percent in 1980 to 58 percent in fiscal 1983, the Pilot retention rate dropped to 56 percent last year and is project cd to fall to 54 percent or lower Dur ing tit current fiscal year. The problem is not confined to the Navy. The air Force retention rate dropped from 78 percent in fiscal 1984 to 72 percent in fiscal 1984. The air Force expects to los roughly 500 experienced pilots this year compared with about 300 in fiscal 1984. The Navy currently has 11,833 pilots and the air Force 23,864. But while requiring fewer men the Navy s retention figures have historically lagged behind those of Theair Force because of the lengthy family separation that comes with Long deploy ments at sea. According to it. David Morris a Navy spokesman the service is currently Short almost 1,000 pilots in the critical mid rank Levels where the most experienced pilots Are found a shortage that guarantees less Shore time for those flying now. Moreover the Navy also is looking to Ward a future with 15 deployable aircraft carriers instead of 13. It takes 18 months and $1 million to train a Pilot the recruiting official observed. You be got to have enough Guys coming out of school to fill the aircraft. According to the official Navy recruiters have so far signed up More than 400 Pilot candidates who will enter the service in Fis Cal 1986. But that Means i be got openings for 645 qualified candidates right now he continued. I can guarantee a minimum wait. Guys can walk in tomorrow and they la be in school right  the new goal is going to Force recruiters to spend More time on College campuses and visiting flight clubs the official  Navy also is considering changes to some of its advertising and placing even More emphasis on the recruiting pitch that accompanies demonstrations by the Blue Angels precision flying team. We re looking for that Young College Grad with 20-20 eyesight he said. Ira claims 2 killed were informants a formal budget. But under Normal House procedures the Pentagon budget in the Resolution would be Frozen at current Levels or about $292 billion. The democrats unhappy with the Confer ence committee Bill last week circulated a letter seeking support for their argument that 13 provisions in the earliest Venion of the Pentagon Bill which passed the Houk in june had been  there were Many components adopted by wide margins which spoke to the Issue Ofa sound Basic streamlined defense said the letter. It then listed 13 provisions in the earlier version of the House defense Bill. Over each provision was stamped the word  those provisions include strict limits on the my nuclear missile strict reforms aimed at ending waste and abuse among defense contractors strict limits on renewed chemical weapons production limits contesting of anti satellite weapons and limits on the administration s Star wars anti missile research system. Temperatures Belfast a a Man and a woman were shot to death in a roman Catholic District of Belfast sunday night and the outlawed Irish Republican army claimed responsibility saying the two were police informers. A spokesman at Belfast police Headquarters said the shootings occurred in the bal Lmurphy District. He said the woman died an she was being admitted to a Hospital and the Man died shortly afterwards. The Ira said the two were killed because they had Given police information about guerrilla activities in Exchange for Cash. The mainly Catholic Ira in a statement to Belfast news organizations also said the victims were a Man and his wife. But the police spokesman said police could not yet confirm their identities. He refused to comment on the Ira statement saying it was not police policy to confirm or deny allegations that victims of the Ira had cooperated with police. The Ira is fighting to unite Northern Ireland a predominantly protestant British province with the overwhelmingly Catholic Irish Republic under socialist Rule. The two deaths bring the toll in 16 years of sectarian and political feuding in the province to at least 2,450. 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