European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - October 17, 1985, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Page 24 the stars and stripes thursday october 17, 1985 on scene divers failed to save marines 15 died As copter crashed info Atlantic Jacksonville . A a team of divers hovering overhead was Able to immediately reach a helicopter that crashed into the Ocean after taking off from a ship but 15 marines aboard died in one of the corps worst aircraft accidents officials say. Four others were rescued tuesday when their twin Rotor Marine ch-46d sea Knight helicopter with 19 people aboard crashed and Sank on Takeoff from the amphibious assault ship Guadalcanal. The helicopter was participating in an exercise with the 26lh Marine amphibious unit. The Cii-46 is the Princi pal assault helicopter of the Marine corps and also is used extensively by the Navy to carry cargo and passengers n ships and  s it s a very Safe aircraft for us. It s real Good. It s been in the inventory since  gunnery sgt. John Sim Mons said. Simmons said a scarch and re scum helicopter with div ers aboard was in the air Over the ship when the helicopter crashed Early tuesday so divers were Able to gel to the wreckage  Simmons said 12 of the casualties were Marine troops aboard the helicopter and three others were Crew Mem Bers. Four marines were pulled from the Choppy Waters around the Guadalcanal. Navy and Marine divers recovered the bodies tuesday afternoon Simmons said and they were taken to the naval Hospital at Camp Lej Cunt. The survivors were reported in Good condition in the i spin Sar aboard the Guadalcanal sgt. Pamela Vajner said. Report Forni Fiagle 1 and May  the  the report Saio maj Roble is Are not unique to the Reagan Aon nation but have continued unchecked i since the Spanish american War. But it said they included problems of joint command like those experienced in the successful invasion of Grenada in 1983. In that operation army officers on the Beach discovered they could not request artillery support from Navy ships offshore because the two services radios were incompatible. The staff report identified 34 separate problems it said arc robbing the . Mili tary of its St length. It also made 91 specific recommendations for change. The panel planned a series of hearings on those recommendations and was to consider possible legislation Early next year. The report singled out the joint chiefs of staff charging that it is unable to adequately fulfil its responsibility to provide useful and timely unified military advice to the president National Security Council and Secretary of  the primary cause of the Defice Jeican be traced to the conflict oud created by the fact that four,.dfbkc five members of the joint  responsible for Overall pud he and operations also head  services it said. The costs of  joint chiefs of staff system jew outweigh the benefits  report said. It ski no uniformed chiefs of the army Nave Marinc corps and air Force should dedicate All their time to the responsibilities of those posts. An advisory Council composed of a chair Man and a four Star officer from each of the services should replace the joint chiefs of staff As the principal military advisory group to the president the report said. The report recommended giving the chairman of such a Council the authority to provide advice on his own. The report said under the present sys chairman of the joint chiefs of adm. William Crowe is Mere Yeai Ucer among equals with no authority to  military advice to the president. While open rivalry bet cel formed services still hampers overal tary effectiveness the report said an a Scimore damaging practice has emerged. It called this interservice los the practice of papering through negotiations  in order to present  unified recommendation  of action to the Secretary of the Ria ass this approach robs the Opportunity to choose trial legitimate options. Counter that the staff report would. The chairman of the proposed advis Ory roup to inform higher authority of All legitimate  the report docs not Call for any further reductions in defense spending. Other recommendations include creating three new under secretaries of defense. They would be charged wit nuclear deterrence the defense of nato and regional defense. Altering the military Chain of com Mand to reinforce the authority of com Manders of joint operations and activities. Creating a new assistant Secretary of defense for Overall strategic planning. Fully integrating the secretariats and military Headquarters staffs within the army and air Force to eliminate confusion and duplication of Effort. Up reported Goldwater said before the report was presented the reorganization of the department of defense May be the most important thing Congress docs in Oil  Nunn said it is because if we leave h there will be no Hajj at the a com it tire officials have yet to Sec  spokesman Robe teral conclusions that re Don t match with our experience up reported. Topf the report Sims told report ers tic Rebh Lucen any input to it from this building. Defens got a 40-Minutc briefing Cludy last week Sims said according to i to the Best of my knowledge to port this lengthy study is. A staff study by a Small group within the Senate armed services committee that has been presented to us Only in a 40-Minutc briefing by its principal author who is a staff Mem Ber Sims said. Sims said Weinberger asked for backup data to support the study s conclusions but has yet to get it. We really find that the Only thing sofar that it offers Are sweeping conc Lesory comments to the effect that things Are terribly wrong with our military and need to be fixed he was quoted by up. These kinds of conclusions without the data to Back them up Don t match up with our recent experience where last thursday we had a military Mission assigned by the from Page 1 Italy that he had no Jig to do with the hijacking. In Rome  minister Giovan army officers cars first bombed in Gret at Flins is two Ca tonging to . Terny officers station near Here were  Early wed Joy. The incident the la Vin a series of firebombing Taku started just Spring occurred outside Tel of apr suburban Homes of the owners in juju Polis about one mile from hello nip a according to a base spokes a Che role Rinaro cloning to Joh Schul a and up opel be lorring to Geoffrey Parisson Iff parked next of each other. One car if destroyed and to other was badly a firn Gine from Hill Nikon to  the Blaze explosive devices were Dis police do not know who . The two officers work with the 558tl . Army arty group. In Spadolini s Repi Vilican party decided to withdraw from thl government in Dis agreement Over Premier Bettino Praxi s handling of the Affail a party spokesman said. Withdrawal of the republicans appeared certain to pm to the fall of the26-month-old coalition of five parties. Investigators in of Tunoa Italy issued arrest warrants for to More palestini ans bringing to seven he number of peo ple charged in the oca7 hijacking. The Achille Laurl which was expected to return to Floa later wednes Day sailed from the Btl Ian port oct. 3 and was hijacked oct. It Klinghoffer was reported killed and i Sway thrown Over Board oct. 8 when the ship was off tar Tus. 9 lebanese radio motors intercepted exchanges Between to hijackers and thattus port authorities that time in which a Hijacker who called himself Omar was heard to a we have thrown him in the Wath we have shot him once in the head. Bis wife is Wail  they did not i Denim the victim. The body was expect Tel to be vital Evi Dence for italian auth ties who Havethe four hijackers in cubby. In addition to the murder charge Tel four have been accused of kidnapping hijacking an possessing arms and car Kives. They were taken  Friday i Siracusa Sicily . Navy Jet fighters intercepted Thoj egyptian jetliner that flew them our to land at a Nat they have been jail in Sicily to a on in spol clo North if Egypt and forced it Tir base. Ansec Rcd from a City a Timur Security Pris of Rome. Erman youths at a 2x? in a armstic president on very Short notice to our Mili tary forces which was carried out with skill excellence  a reporter suggested us of interception of an  Hijack ers seemed  event to justify the  s is trillion do reported. M not trying to do that Sims re plied. I just said this was a snapshot that gives you an idea what our military is pre pared to do in the present Day environment. It was a difficult Mission involving the entire Chain of command Down to the operational level and it worked. So those who say that our system is broken can look at this and ask what is broken he said. I Don t want to be labor that incident. It s just the most recent Inci i it that comes to  is is said the report May go Down As a 600-Page mystery report which does t live up to its a Vance  so we would like to know More about it. 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