European Stars And Stripes (Newspaper) - November 30, 1985, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Saturday november 30, 1985 the stars and stripes Page 23 commentary Kramer was ready to Swap Lombard the moment is etched permanently in Jerry Kramer s mind carved indelibly into his psyche. You do not. After All. Casually dismiss he instant you decide to Belt your football coach especially when the coach is Vince Lombardi. Kramer had survived a half do in or so years of Lombardi s unique approach to the preparation of his Green Bay Packer teams "1 remember Guys losing consciousness in practice Kramer said when he reached the absolute limit of endurance. The All pro guard had been struggling playing with what turned out to be broken ribs an injury Lombardi chose to describe As a pulled muscle. He and fuzzy Thurston had been saluted in print As football s Best guards but in this particular practice paired with a Rookie Kramer was dragging being dominated by Packer defenders. On the sidelines he heard Lombardi s distinctive voice deriding the guards. Yeah we be got the Best guards All right the coach snorted. More like the worst guards that was it Kramer decided. He had taken All the abuse he would take from this Man. I swore to my self i was going to hit him he said. Kramer walked away from the huddle telling Thurston to relieve him. He moved slowly purpose fully toward the coach mulling Over the repercussions of his next act which he had decided would involve smacking his Boss in the Mouth. I was thinking this is going to Cost me a game Hallock salary and championship Money but i m going to do it anyway he had pushed me past the  Lombardi the master psychologist must have read the lire in Kramer s eyes. As soon As the guard reached him. The coach broke into a mischievous Grin. He reached up and chucked the player fondly on the Check. He said c Mon i did t mean you not you " Kramer recalled. In an instant the tension was relieved. No punches were thrown. No fines were assessed. There was after All another championship to be won and that was always Lombardi s first priority. Kramer arrived in Green Bay in 1958, the year before the coach. The team had struggled through a i to i season and the gossip in the dressing room was that the legendary curly Lambeau would be return ing As coach to rebuild the franchise. We were excited about the Prospect Kramer recalled. When they announced Lombardi. The re action was who s that All we knew was that he had been an assistant with the new York Gianis. It was like they had made a  they had not Lombardi arrived with a new work ethic. Me put us on fire  Kramer said. I remember a talk about winning. He said he had never been associated with a loser and he was not going to Start with us. He said anybody who was t willing to work could pet out. Nobody  that was Lombardi s signal that this particular group of individuals would accept his work ethic and his philosophy. Such As dancing is a Contact sport football is a collision sport. If you can walk you can run. I never could Sec any reason Why we should lose. We never won As Many As i wanted which was All of them. Winning in t everything it is the Only thing. And so on. He folded these men into a pro football leg end. The Bond survived the years and Kramer with the help of author Dick Schapp describes it in Dis Tant replay the Story of a Packer reunion. He United  Kramer said of his coach. He brought us together in our initial resentment of him. His philosophy was everybody can hate me. Just do it together " eventually that hate flowered into love of the Man and his methods. But there were moments when it was severely tested and fists were  a Tocum Pittl defences Benefit bengals coach says nil undergoing changes Dallas from Page 21 Cincinnati up1 take a look at any nil game this season and you la see the sport in the midst of a major change says Cincinnati bengals coach Sam Wyche. Defensively the game has changed and the whole metamorphosis is taking place this season the coach said. You can see it happening. It s just become a different kind of game. Wyche said two ingredients Loose interpretation of the pass interference Rule and fewer penalties for illegal chucking Are giving defences an Edge Over offences. Wyche an offensive specialist said he in t complaining just observing. He predicted that new rules or different interpretations will eventually swing things Back toward the  there s no question As i talk to officials and other coaches throughout the league that it s happening said Wyche. Officials have told me it s being watched very closely by the league. Reports Are being made As to what s happening and How this thing is  Wyche said pass defenders Are doing the illegal chucking downfield and getting away with it. No question about it. The Rule still states that you can Only Chuck a Man hit a Man within five Yards of the line of scrimmage. But that s happening All Over the Field now. It s Hap pening on every Down. It s like holding you could Call it on every snap. But they Only throw the Flag when it gets to be too much. The five Yard Chuck Rule was established about a decade ago at the insistence of bengals general manager Paul Brown. One of Brown s Best players wide receiver Isaac Curtis was having his Speed and Tal ent eroded by aggressive defensive backs bumping him All the Way Down the Field. The Rule became known in some circles As the Isaac Curtis  when they put in tha Rule it swung things heavily towards the offence for a while said Wyche. Now it s swinging heavily towards the defense until some thing else comes along to counter  new interpretation of the interference Rule also gives the defender an Edge he did not have before. As Long As the defender is looking at the Ball trying to get the Ball any incidental Contact with the receiver is no foul said Wyche. A year ago that would have been a foul if you knocked the receiver Down trying to get the Ball. So As this season has progressed de fenders have developed the Art of appearing to look for the Ball and still Elbow and Knock Down and whatever. It s gotten to be Prilly effective. It s become More and More aggressive to the Point where there s scrapping All the Way Down the Field. You re not going to get the interference Call you did a year  for that reason Wyche said Mote teams Are gambling with the Blitz. Quebec hands Boston its 1 St loss on Home ice Boston a Veteran Center Peter Stastny might have liked the game winning puck to display in his trophy Case but he gracefully let backup goalie Clint Malar Chuk have it. Stastny scored three goals for his ninth National hockey league hat trick and Malarchuk earned his first shutout thursday night u the Quebec Nordi Quet became the first visiting team to win in Boston this season with a 3-0 Victory Over the Bruins in thursday1 Only nil game. The puck s in my pocket now but it s going on the Wall at Home said Malar Chuk 24. Who has played Only sparingly in four year in the league. In every game you need your big Guy to score goals and Peter got three for us to night Quebec coach Michel Bergeron said. And in every game you need the key save. Clint Malarchuk gave us the key saves All game  Malarchuk who was beaten three pre Vious starts this season had 27 saves to notch his first nil shutout. Boston which began with a 7-0-2 record As the Only unbeaten team at Home out shot Quebec 27-25, but Stastny and Malarchuk led the Nordques to their second Victory Over the Bruins in two starts. Stastny scored his eighth and ninth goals of the season in the second period and completed the Bat trick in the finale As the Nordques snapped a four game losing Streak. It was Quebec s third Victory in its last 1.2 outings. Stastny s Lin mate Brent Ash Lon assisted on All three goals. Boston goalie Doug Keans had Only 22 saves in taking his first loss in his last nine starts. His Overall record dropped to 7-1-3. Because Cardinal quarterback Neil Lomax riddled the Cowboy secondary with Case. Lomax had a 5-Yard scoring pass to Roy Green and set up stump Mitchell s 2-Yard scoring run and novo Bojovic s 38-Yard Field goal. Dallas a 14-3-1 in thanksgiving Day games including a 4-0 record against the cardinals. While hit 14 of 26 passes for 235 Yards while Lomax completed 28 of 43 for 319 Yards. The cowboys got a Quick gift from Mitch Ell who fumbled to Dallas Eugene Lockhart at the Cardinal 33. A holding Call on Jeff Griffin on a third-and-20 incomplete pass gave Dallas another first Down at the Cardinal 17. Two plays later White found Rinfro for an 18-Yard touchdown pass. The cards charged 71 Yards in 11 plays to tie the score with the touchdown coming on Mitchell s 2-Yard run. Lomax completed a 14-Yard pass to Green to keep the drive alive on third and seven from the Dallas 26. Dallas John Dutton recovered another Mitchell Fumble at the Dallas 1-Yard line to kill a St. Louis threat but novo Bojovic put the cards ahead with a 38-Yard Field goal. Cosbie made a diving catch of White s 19-Yard pass behind St. Louis linebacker Niko Noga to give Dallas a 14-10 Lead. The undaunted cardinals took advantage of cornerback Evanon Walls holding penalty on third Down at the Dallas 19 to Lead again 17-14 on Lomax s 5-Yard pass to Green. A 13 Yard pass to . Smith positioned the Cardi nals for the touchdown. Lions from Page 21 a Pawlo Quebec s Peter Dustny. 3 assists from Brent Ashton a letdown after sunday s Victory Over acc East rival new England. I think it look an awful let out of them not to take anything away from us he said. Hippie completed 19 of 29 passes for 269 Yards relying on Short Quick passes to frus trate the  pass Rush. This was a real must game for us hippie said in referring to the Lions play off Hopes. I think the 10-Day rest will be Good Lor our battered selves but then we got to go on the Road