European Stars And Stripes (Newspaper) - October 22, 1986, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Page 10 the stars and stripes wednesday october 22,1988 William Buckley Here s Why the conservatives Are concerned q. What do television and press commentators mean when they say thai conservatives Are especially concerned with what president Reagan has done lately i mean Why especially conservatives a. Because conservatives Are generally understood to be those who Are More or less irreversibly sceptical about the intentions of the soviet Union. Q. How Don scepticism about soviet intentions Bear on the events of the last month a. Welt it was conservatives who walked out with the impression that the soviet Union was pushing Reagan around. I mean he said there would be no Swap but conservatives Are from Missouri and 24 hours was All that separated Nicholas Daniloff release from Gennady Zakharov s release. Conservatives think of that As a Swap. Q. But what do conservatives think were the motives of the soviet Union in the first place  was t a spy and granted Mikhail Gorbachev went out on a limb publicly rejecting Reagan s Assur ances that Daniloff was t a spy. Why Are conserva Tives sore about what then happened a. Because it seemed Plain that Gorbachev wanted a quickie Summit meeting and wanted to give the world the impression thai he. Not Reagan was running the International chessboard so he arrested Daniloff and Gol away with it he got his own spy Back by giving up two political prisoners he had no right to hold in the first place under the Helsinki accords and then he obviously asked for and obviously got an of to a quickie Summit in Iceland. 0. Of so the soviet Union is running As it always has. So you Don t gel dyspeptic about evidence of yet More political patronage in Boston. Mass., but what is it about the Iceland Summit that makes the conservatives sound although Munich Yalta Potsdam were about to happen a. The new York times summarized conservative concern pretty neatly in its rundown by Bernard we Rubinan on sunday or. Reagan seemed aware of the perception in conservative circles that he had be come a convert to  q. It May seem to you like a primitive question but what is wrong with detente a. Detente presupposes that the soviet Union s appetite to Rule the world has diminished and conserva Tives see no evidence of this either n soviet foreign policy or strategic planning. Q. Are you saying conservatives have lost conf George will Umi dunce in their evil Empire Ami communist Leader a. Many have. Whal s interesting is that some think that withdrawal of Confidence is premature. Q. Why premature a. Because some conservatives have reason to be Lieve that Reagan is moving in on the soviet Union taking special advantage of soviet weaknesses it does not pay him publicly to advertise. Q. What Are you talking about a. Reagan May be calculating thai there arc Force moving within the soviet Union that even Gorbachev can t control and thai these arc crying out for Relief from exorbitant demands by la military. Who hum. We be heard that for 20 years. A. Yes but what is different this time around is that ski the strategic defense initiative the space shield program Star wars whatever you want to Call it sounded the death Knell some people close to Reagan think for the soviet plan to overwhelm the West. So it May be that Reagan approached Iceland with the knowledge that he held the cards. A How do you define the cards a. The cards in this situation Means simply this that Reagan May be in a position to Tell Gorbachev no anything Gorbachev does t already know but to Tell Gorbachev that Reagar knows that Gorbachev it now that our space shield technology is  a rate that will make it impossible for the soviet Union to threaten us More directly every month a great Dif Ference from the relative increase in soviet Power Over the past decade. He can show his four aces and Ihen dictate with appropriate deference to soviet face the terms of soviet strategic Retreat. Q. Are you suggesting that we Are looking Forward to something that amounts to soviet disarmament a. No. I am suggesting that Reagan thinks he Bat a shot at letting routine nuclear retrenchment occupy the Public Eye but the main thing that will emerge is a full Speed ahead for ski and b the consolidation of  opinion in Favoron ski. Q. Do you believe that a. Did you Ever see a dream walking uni veil Puia Syndicate Martinez seeks to be Florida s 2nd gop governor Orlando Kun Florida has been called Ameri Ca s geologic afterthought. The rest of the Mainland was old hat by the Lime the Peninsula Rose a few feel out of the Ocean just 20 million years ago. But Florida has been making up for lost time and today is Ameri Ca s Foremost Laboratory of social change now Bob Martinez 51, who recently resigned As Tampa s mayor in order to run for governor May be come Florida s second Republican governor in this Century. Like the first Claude Kirk who served a sin Gle term As a result of a democratic split in the 1960smartinez switched parties in mid career. The name Martinez May make you think a another immigrant cuban probably making Good. Think gain. Martinez s grandparents both from Spain met and married in Tampi around the turn of the Century. So his family Hai been Here longer than perhaps 95 per cent of Florida s families. Eighty percent of the voters this year Wilt not be native floridian. There Ere no Dinosaur fossils in Florida because dinosaurs were Long gone before Florida became dry land. However some republicans think the demo cratic party is a lumbering beast on its last leg. Democrats still have a three to two registration advantage but since 1980 new registrations favor republicans 13 i Daboul 400,00010 30.000. Martinez supported cuter in 1980, became a Republican in 1983. Addressed the Republican National Conven Tion in 1984. However the idea of uprooting oneself does not Shock Tori divas. Each year about 330,000 uproot themselves from elsewhere u become permanent resident of Florida. That is the equivalent of a new Tampa each year. In about two years Florida should be the fourth most populous stale by 1995, it should be third. Management of growth might seem to be an Issue favouring a Liberal advocate of activist regulating government Martinez puts a conservative spin on the Issue by saying High economic growth and Low welfare costs Are necessary to free funds far combating Beach erosion protecting wetlands Etc. Growth can even help Florida s fresh water shortage. Municipalities that expand onto what was agricultural land often reduce water demands because agriculture is the Hea Viest user of water but issues such As growth management and health care far Florida s elderly Are barely even secondary issues. Asked what voters seem worried about Marti Nez says first crime. Second crime. Third crime in a close bitter contest. Democrats nominated for governor Liberal Sieve Pajcic but not before his conservative opponent did More damage to him than Martinez will have time or perhaps need to do. The opponent subsequent endorsement of Pajcic fell Short of lukewarm. Republicans think this democratic fratricide May save Western civilization As we know it civilization depends they say on the re election of sen. Paula Hawkins who is being challenged by the incumbent governor Bob Graham Pajcic 40, lost most counties in the primary but ran up big majorities in the condominiums and other stately pleasure domes of Southern Florida. Martinez who breakfasts on Bant and Cream cheese expects to do Well among be wifi and cuban american voters in the South. In North Florida which is a lot More Southern than South Florida the context May turn on each candidate s attempt to resemble a Combina Tion of Matt Dillon Kojak and Crockett and Tubb capital punishment is the All purpose Issue by which liberals scrub off the taint of liberalism. Pajic s Posi Tion is that capital punishment is morally a Norrett bul As governor he would sign death warrants duty produced by the criminal Justice system. Martinez position is & study in eating your cake and having it toot Martinez endorses capital punishment and says Amot Tion is driving Pajcic loan unseemly Compromise you May Compromise about freeways and Bond but not mailers of life and death. In what Little time remains when drug. Other crimes Are not the tonics the Martinez May try to make much of Pajic s votes a forbidding adoptions by or marriage Bette sexual and regulating displays of Magazine 1 House in convenience stores. Pajcic votes i doubts about constitutionality the Martinez Campaign had hoped to a Hay with the feel that Pajcic one was a member o democratic platform committee that had the end to discuss repealing the stale Constitution s in am income tax. But there Are no tapes of Whit tin if a 1.,.ndians consider a Semi criminal discussion and i in sides the democrats did not endorse repeal Pajcic s candidacy tests the proposition iat fun la conservative Cal voters like liberalism a w order liberalism please in state governments Deal m Basic services. However cosmetics Mailer 1 Victory in the primary is said to have been made Pel ble by his consultant s insistence that he Abt ddn wire no glasses and Bow ties i think that Abiaad Mel of he Lent cd ories a Ign Price to i whih Ngun fail a Liri group