European Stars And Stripes (Newspaper) - October 15, 1988, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Page 2b the stars and stripes saturday october 15,19b8 Low flights crash draw More fire Bonn opposition questions . Role. I 4k�u of tar Thi  in la vol flights 1 Bonn West Germany a opposition lawmakers suggested on Friday that the recent Ramstein disaster and anger Over Low level military flights show West German 1 May have Given up Loo much control Over its internal affairs to the . Government. Those responsible among the nato partners must understand that during peacetime conditions Here should not be like those of a front nation on the eve of War said Walter Kolbow a top Law maker with the social democratic party. We must use our entitlement to sovereignty to promote our own interests Kolbow said in the bundestag West Germany s parliament. A Long simmering National debate Over inc limits of West German sovereignty was heightened by the fiery aug. 28 stunt plane crash at Ramstein a and a series of nato warplane crashes this  years the West germans have complained about property damage news briefs Kohl Mitterrand meet to talk Over key issues Vezeay France up French president Francois Mitterrand and West German Chan cellar Helmut Kohl met Friday in the town inthe Yonne Region to discuss East West relations and bilateral cooperation officials said. Both Heads of state Are planning to visit mos cow in coming weeks. Diplomatic sources said Friday s meeting was intended to permit Ihei Rno coordinate their positions regarding the soviet Union and chemical and conventional weapons. Poll finds canadians split on . Trade pact Toronto a More canadians support a free Trade agreement Wilh the United states but people remain sharply split Over the Domi Nant Issue in the election Campaign according to a poll published  poll by the end ironic research group and the Independent Globe and mail newspaper shows 44 percent of canadians support and 42 percent oppose the agreement signed by president Reagan and prime minister Brian Mulroney in january. Caused by nearly perpetual Maneu vers by the . Military. Commentators opposition politicians and others have called on the Federal government to establish firm control on what the . Military and other North Atlantic treaty organization nations Are allowed to do on German soil and in German skies. Kolbow said the Ramstein disaster property damage from Maneu vers and deafening Low level nato training nights have infuriated the West German population. In peacetime that which is meant to be defended and protected should certainly not be damaged or destroyed he said. Concern indeed anger is increasing among those affected Kolbow made the remarks during a debate on Low level military training flights. Low flying nato military jets Are a common sight in West Germany. Civil ians have complained of having night mares because they fear the warplanes will crash. The social democrats arc demanding that the government Tell the United states and other nato partners with warplanes in West Germany to Nail the Low level nights. Florian Center another social demo crat echoed Kolbow s concern for West German sovereignly. Americans britons and French would nol themselves accept such a Bur Den for very Long. The allies should re Spect the political wishes of the German Federal lawmakers Wersler said. He said the Low level training flights threaten West germans acceptance of our defense by inc United Stales and other nato allies. Kolbow said we demand that the Federal government and nato immediately develop a defense concept that finally makes possible a ban on military Low level training flights. Our View is that an immediate halt to Low Leve night is possible because of the development of Modem military technology and because of the relaxed situation Between East and  Chancellor Helmut Kohl s govern mint has said Low level flights arc Nec Essary to train pilots for War but is pressing for a reduction in those flights defense minister Rupert Scholz said Friday that a High level International working group would discuss the mat Ter but be did not  United Stales has not announced whether it will continue staging air shows like the one held annually at Ramstein. An italian stunt plane crashed into a crowd of spectators at the aug. 28 exhibition the disaster killed 69 people and injured More than 400. West Germany is by All accounts on of the most militarized regions in the world. Almost 250,000 . Service members Are stationed in West Germany in All seven nations including West Germany have More than 900,000 soldiers based throughout the country. Ramstein rom Page 1 his group s inquiry to continue through next Spring. The pane will begin hearings on the disaster oct. 24. On Friday opposition spokesmen in Mainz repeat edly questioned Why improvements were not made to joint american German emergency Relief to store after earlier disaster Relief practices indicated coordination   county official testified that practices were too Small did not involve enough German professionals and revealed flaws in proce  the four hour session of heated debate spa and greens spokesmen also pressed their Case to put names on authorities in charge of air show preparations demanding to know the identity of the key person in charge at Ramstein a when the disaster occurred. The disaster the world s worst air show Accident claimed 69 lives and injured More than 400 people. Three italian jets collided during a Man Euver and one plane plunged into a crowd of spectators. It cannot be denied that in some cases the mrs Aid Given might not have been sufficient Ceil  according to the investigation reports up until now it can be assumed that most injured peo it at the agric dial Cen ple received sufficient first Aid either right i base or at Lan Stuhl army regional Midi Geil went on to say that autopsies on disaster victims gave no indication that their lives could have been saved if they had received first Aid soon or the preliminary report determined thai . And German intravenous equipment were compatible despite complaints to the contrary. Geil also said decisions on where to Send injured people we remade by doctors at the scene or at receiving Hospi tals and not rescuers As had been alleged. Also defended were american Rescue efforts involving Quick evacuation to medical facilities in Stead of adhering to the German practice of apply ing first Aid at the scene before transferring victim to hospitals. Franz Rudolf Theis a Rheinland Pfalz police doctor said the speedy evacuation was appropriate in the Ramstein disaster because of safety threats posed by the possibility of secondary explosions from the downed aircraft responding to criticism from stale spa chair Man Rudolf Scharping that joint .-German emergency procedures should have been improve before the Ramstein disaster Geil said legislative efforts to better coordinate such procedures already had been under Way when the Accident occurred. After the meeting Friday Geil told the Stan and stripes thai he was nol surprised by the opposition s attacks on the draft report. He termed the criticism a subjective political  debate from Page 1 abcs today program if i were working for Michael Dukakis & be Send ing out resumes this morning. Not so fast countered Dukakis Clos est aide John Sasso he said the Massachusetts governor scored Wilh undecided and swing voters last evening in the second and final de Bale of the Campaign. That s what we were looking  Sasso conceded that the Democrat trails in the polls but he said it s Well within Range and announced new television advertisements featuring the Candi Date talking in his shirtsleeves about Campaign concerns. Dukakis and Bush both arranged to Campaign during the Day in California the biggest electoral vote state and a toss up in All the polls. Running male Lloyd Benleo was at Dukakis Side. Once and for All. Bush declared there would not be a third Debaie saying people have had it up to Here with de  but Dukakis told a Post debate rally i think we ought to have that third de Bale Don t you1 we be gotten the re publicans out from behind the nag factory and the balloons and discussing the issues. That s Why debates Are so import my Tant. Before a prime time television Audi ence of tens of millions of people bus hand Dukakis traded blows Over social Security abortion the death Penally the qualifications of their running males and National defense. Amid the Battle Over issues there also was a contest to demonstrate personal warmth and liability. Dukakis who has been criticized As being too controlled and unemotional was asked to address the question of his affability. "1 think i m a reasonably Lika ble Guy he said. I m serious though i think i m a Little More lovable these Days than i used to be Back in my youth when i began in the state  polls continue to indicate that run Ning mate Dan Quayle has been a drag on the Republican ticket there also were moments of poignancy. Both men talked of losing a child Bush a daughter to leukaemia and Dukakis a child 20 minutes after it was born. Defending himself against charges he was running � negative Campaign. Bush said i have defined the issues and i am nol going to Lei governor Dukakis go through this election without explaining some of these very Liberal positions. He s the one a Liberal traditional Liberal a progressive Liberal Democrat Dukakis shot Back in 1980 president Reagan called you a Liberal for voting for Federal gun control. But let s Stop Abeling each other and let s get to the heart of the matter which is the future of this  accusing Bush of changing positions on social Security the environment and ethics in government Dukakis said 1 Don t know which George Bush i m listening  Bush promised thai he would never Cut social Security. Dukakis noted that the current administration bad tend to do just thai and said i m sure you la try to do it  Bush said As president he would not have any conservative litmus lest for supreme court justices. He also noted that he supported president Reagan s controversial selection of conservative judge Robert Bork for the supreme court Bork was rejected by the  responded if the vice presi Dent of the United states thinks that Robert Bork was an outstanding appoint ment that is a very Good reason for vat ing for Mike Dukakis on the 8th of no  the administration on for eign policy Dukakis said Lei s go to work and end this fiasco in Centra America a failed policy which has Actu ally increased cuban and soviet in thu responding. Bush said that the policy in Central America regrettably has failed because the Congress has been unwilling to support those who have been fighting for  National defense Dukakis said there s no Way that we can build All of the weapons the vice president says he wants to build within the defense Bud  Bush criticized Dukakis for sup porting a nuclear weapons freeze in the Early 19805 and in a slap at his Val inexperience in foreign policy said you just Don t make unilateral cuts in the naive Hope that the soviets Are going to behave themselves