European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - January 19, 1990, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Page 28 the stars and stripes Friday. January 19,1990 Hungary wants soviets out within 2 years Vienna Austria a Hungary stepped up its demand for withdrawal of soviet troops from its soil and made a Surprise proposal thursday for Sharp cuts in All foreign troops stationed in Europe. Frenc Somogyi. Stair Secretary of the hungarian for eign ministry made the proposals As part of East West talks on reducing conventional armed forces in Europe. His plan goes Well beyond the manpower limits suggested by president Bush in the negotiations Between the 16 nations of the North Atlantic treaty Organiza Tion and the seven countries of the Warsaw pact. Hungary has previously called for he Kremlin to remove its troops but Somogyi modified the demand by saying his nation wanted the soldiers out this year or next year at the latest. There Are no reasons be they of a political Mili tary Security or arms control character that would justify the stationing of foreign troops on the territory of Hungary he told a news conference. Hungarian Premier Miklos no myth recently met with soviet Premier Nikolai Ryzhkova to arrange talk son the Issue. No myth had stressed that withdrawal depended on an agreement at the Vienna talks on cutting conventional forces in Europe. Czechoslovakia also wants All soviet soldiers out this year. About 10,000 soviet troops already have left Hun Gary and Czechoslovakia under the phased withdrawal of 50,000 men from Eastern Europe. Soviet president Mikhail s. Gorbachev announced that withdrawal i december 1988. An additional 6,000 of the 52,000 soviet troops said to remain in Hungary arc due to leave this year and an undisclosed number Are scheduled to leave Czechoslovakia where officials say there Are 70,000 soviet forces. Somogyi told reporters that his proposal for East West troop cuts docs not set a ceiling on the number of Powell from Page 1 actions of the soviet Union and the Warsaw pact to reduce its military threat As on Domestic budget pres sures he said. I m not sure there is a magic number Powell said. I think As the months go by and we Sec these changes become permanent and As we Are confident that these changes Are irreversible and As the soviet Union and the Warsaw pact go through this historic transformation. We will have to take account of All that. So 1 think it would be premature to say that yes in 1994, the number will be exactly a Well just have to wait and Sec How it turns  if Overall troop Levels Are significantly reduced the military could rely increasingly on lighter More to bile forces 10 defend Europe Powell said. Lighter forces use fewer tanks and heavy armoured vehicles and rely More on foot soldiers and fast wheeled vehicles. I think there will be a continuing role for Light forces. Whether or not we want to permanently recon figure our forces in Europe to be lighter is premature. I think what they la have to be if they get smaller is quite  smaller numbers of troops will also mean an in creased emphasis on our ability to reinforce Europe should it become necessary he said. Powell said fog kept him from doing All he had scheduled on his tour of the exercise. But he was Able to visit rear command Post operations. The Guys in the rear Don t always get to Sec a chair Man who got grounded he said. Powell hailed the increased use of computer Simula Tion in the exercise noting that the military gets the same amount of training value and i think even greater training value for less Money while minimizing damage. We re not unmindful that we inconvenience people and we cause some amount of damage to the Environ ment As we exercise. That will always be the Case. But we want to do what we can to minimize it and com Puter simulation allows us to do  Powell also said he did not foresee any change in the regulations barring women from direct involvement in combat units but said he had no doubt women would see combat if a War broke out. I used to say when i was a corps commander in Europe that when the War starts women will be in combat and will be performing essential combat roles on hour one Day one and Well have female casual tics on hour one Day  National tradition Law and army policy has dictated that we will not allow women into those units that arc in direct Contact with the enemy Powell said. "1 think that is Correct National policy. I think it reflects the will of the american  Powell added that the controversy Over whether women should take Active roles in combat should not discount the role women play in All other areas of the armed forces. They arc  foreign soldiers that could be stationed in another country in Europe. But he said the Overall foreign troop deployment i Europe should be much lower than Bush s proposal which Calls for the United states and the soviet Union to reduce their forces in Europe to no More than 275.000 each. To meet the Bush proposal the soviets would have to pull out 300,000 troops and the United slates30,000. Somogyi said his plan would apply to troops of All countries not just the superpowers. The soviet Union has been talking about a limit of 300,000 to 350,000 troops station of abroad by each Alliance. As Somogyi spoke top military officers from 35 nations met for a third Day to discuss East West Mili tary strategies. The three week meeting is part of negotiations designed to reduce military tensions in Europe. East from Page 1 seeing a process of erosion taking place. That is very unlikely to be reversed Bishop said. But he warned that ongoing unrest in Eastern Europe j leaves plenty of room for bloodshed still. For inter Van Ilion by the traditional communists. And the Dank Drudgery so characteristic of postwar  the general made his remarks to about 40 people i attending a meeting of the armed forces Communia i ions electronics association. He advised the audience to stay tuned for developments in Albania and the soviet Baltic states of Latvia and Estonia predicting Freedom movements similar to those in Czechoslovakia East Germany Poland Romania and other East bloc co Univich. But As communist influence wanes Eastern euro peans will face greater difficulty in solving their coun tries economic woes than in revamping political and military institutions and alliances Bishop predicted. We in intelligence will attempt to Monitor these events As they unfold and Well try to sort out the puzzles probably right along with those governments and those people As the changes Are happening he said. Bishop also predicted that . Forces would rely More on intelligence operations based in the unite states during the 1990s. He characterized the decade As the most exciting unpredictable and challenging since the end of the second world  soviets from Page 1 additional troops into the troubled Mountain Region in an Effort to quell the deadliest round of violence in the most protracted ethnic conflict of Gorbachev s nearly 5-year ensure. The soldiers were authorized wednesday to fire on gunmen who attack them or people who Are trying to steal weapons. But Yazoo said their numbers were still insufficient to bring the situation under control. He said he understood reservists would be unhappy about being called up to maintain order in another soviet Republic but emphasized that no one is setting them the task of killing shooting going onto some offensive. It is principally to protect Public  however soldiers lives have been endangered. A Interior ministry lieutenant was shot and killed in the disputed Magorno Karabash Region and a private mor tally wounded according to official reports. Moscow radio detailing the difficulties facing units sent to the caucasus said one transport plane arriving with troops had been immediately seized by fleeing armenians who demanded to be flown to safety. The reservist Call up was needed in part because recent cuts under Gorbachev s plan to slash the nation s armed forces by 500,000 men Nave depleted the Pool of units that can be moved to the caucasus Yazoo said. He did not say How Many of the newly mobilized troops would be sent to the War zone. Interior minister Vadim Baratin in an interview published thursday said internal Security forces were already feeling the Pinch of trying to Cope with the caucasus unrest while fulfilling their Normal duties which include guarding prisons and fighting crime. In comments to the youth newspaper Komsomol Skaya pravda Baratin referred to the six Days of strife As a civil War becoming the first High level member of the soviet government to do so. Moscow radio said anti armenian attacks continued in Baku though no new killings were reported in the City on the Caspian sea Over the past 24 hours. Thirty hostages held in one neighbourhood were set free. The six Day round of violence exploded saturday with bloody anti armenian riots in the Caspian sea port sparking Battles by bands of heavily armed armenians and azerbaijani in and near the disputed a Gorno Karabash District. The fighting is the worst Between mainly moslem azerbaijanis and mostly Christian armenians since their decades old feud Over Magorno Karabash erupted in violence two years ago. The enclave with population of 160,000, has been ruled by Azerbaijan since 1923 and the current troubles erupted Over its demand in february 1988 to be annexed by Armenia. In Moscow Interior ministry spokesman Dmitri Seleznov said the death toll in the civil warfare was now up to 66 and that 220 people had been wounded. He said 4,658 More armenians had been evacuated from Baku since wednesday adding to the 7,000 evacuated earlier in the week. Of clarifies Story on women s role in Airdrop Washington is an associated press article published in the stars and stripes yesterday was off the Mark when it reported that women now will be allowed to make Parachute jumps from air Force c-130 and c-141 transport planes during cargo Airdrop missions. The air Force announcement actually said women will be allowed to serve As Crew members on Airdrop missions involving the two aircraft As Well As the future c-17 transport said capt. Tom a Poncy a spokesman for the military Airlift come at Scott fab 111. The change affects All aircrew positions including pilots and navigators for officers and flight Engineer Load master and flying Crew chief jobs for enlisted personnel. Dolney said women have served on c 14is on air to land missions but were not allowed on Airdrop missions such As those that were flown in support of the recent Panama invasion. All c-130 air Crew positions except those on wc-130 weather observation aircraft had been closed to women he said. Although the command could not immediately identify How Many positions will be affected by the order to lift the restrictions which was signed dec. 14 by Secretary of the air Force Donald Rice Dolney said the change will have an Impact. "c-130s make up 39 percent of our four engine Airlift Force he said. When you talk about opening up 39 percent of the Airlift Fleet to women it s certain to have an  the c-141 makes up 46 percent of the command s Airlift Fleet and the c-5 the last 15 percent. The Only military Airlift come planes on which women still Are not allowed to serve Are the ac-130 gunship the he 130 and Mc-130, and aircraft flying what the service Calls special operations Low level missions Dolney said. The change was made As a result of an air Force review of aircrew assignment policies taking into account recent changes to the combat exclusion policies for women in the military that were put into effect in late 1988. Those policy changes prompted the Navy Early last year to allow women to apply for More than 9,000 positions on its combat logistics Force ships and 500 positions on Orion ep-3 reconnaissance aircraft