European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - February 17, 1991, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Page 10 b the stars and stripes sunday february 17,1991philippines talks end Manila Philippines apr . And philippine negotiators ended Marathon talks saturday on the fun lure of american military bases but they failed to agree on How much compensation Washington should pay and / How Long the installations could stay. A  spokesman Stanley Schrager said a technical discussions a would resume in Washington lat a this month. On those issues. A spokesman for the philippine delegation Raul Rube said Manila wanted $825 million a year for a a seven year package a while the United states offered $520 million annually. The . Figure included $200 million As part of a multilateral Aid program for the Philippines and development assistance. Rabe said Tufe Philippines was willing to accept half the amount in Cash and the rest in non budgetary assistance such As debt Relief and increased Access for local exports. A c a. A v at Issue is the future of Clark a Subic Bay naval facilities and four smaller installations whose lease exp res sept. 16. American officials had hoped to finish work on the compensation Issue ahead of this months. Deadline for submitting the Federal budget to Congress. The bases arc among the oldest and largest . In stall Tionson foreign soil. Any agreement must be ratified by 16 of the 23-Mem-her philippine Senate and opponents claim they have / enough votes to Block any Accord. Negotiations on a new agreement began last May.,. In a statement after the talks president Corazon Aquino said that there had been a encouraging Prog Ressy in the talks and that a substantial agreement had been reached on najor issues. A talks had been scheduled to end Friday but lasted. Into the night in an Effort to Hammer out an Accord chief . Negotiator Richard Armitage postponed his departure until saturday to allow More time for the the United states has proposed a 10 to 12-year a transition period during which the 40,000 troops military dependents and civilians would be reduced. Schrager said the United states avoided calling the transition a a phase out Quot because the Philippines could decide later to allow the americans to remain. Washington considers the installations the Linchpin of its detente of the far East. Philippine critics say the facilities infringe on National sovereignty. On the eve of the opening session last May communist rebels1 killed two . Airmen near Clark and threat ened More assassinations. But the size and frequency of protests against the  steadily declined in recent months surveys show a growing number of filipinos support the bases. / Aquino has refused to say whether she wants the bases closed despite Strong american support for her administration. . Jets from Clark flew air cover for government forces during a coup attempt in december 1989 that nearly toppled her administration. Following saturdays talks Schrager said substantial Progress had been made on arrangements for the status of . Troops stationed in the Philippines including criminal jurisdiction taxes and other issues Rabe said the Philippines was insist ing on come Tion guarantees because the country needed a reliable flow of funds for its economic development. In 1988, the Reagan administration promised $960 million Over two years to use the facilities until next september. But Congress reduced that figure leading to charges in Manila that Washington had reneged on its word. M pm m on thursday defense Secretary Fidel Ramos said the base pc should be allowed to remain for the time being because it would Cost the Philippines up to $7 Billiott to upgrade its defense if they were closed. Bush praises soviet role in Gulf conflict Kennebunkport Maine apr president Bush said saturday that the soviet Union is playing a a constructive role in the persian Gulf War and that he has fresh assurances Moscow is standing with the coalition. Bush a comments canc As soviet Percsi Dent Mikhail Gorbachev prepared Tor talks with iraqi foreign minister Turin Azizona monday in  officials said saturday that Gorbachev had asked the United states to hold off on launching a ground War against Iraq until the Aziz Gorbachev talks were concluded. A Bush on a four Day trip to his Maine Home was asked about concerns that the soviets might be striking out on their own to Deal with Iraq. A during a High Speed walk on an icy Beach he said of Gorbachev a a he a been very solid in support of the  pressed further he said the soviets were playing a a constructive role that a it a a a v a a defense Secretary Dick Cheney sought to dispel any notion that the soviets might be working it on something the administration would take Issue with. The soviets a have conducted them selves we think in a commendable fashion a Cheney said on in no so news maker  meanwhile tightened Security prevent-1 de a band of anti War protesters from marching to Bush a  War mop up . Troops Washington apr if iraqi president Saddam Hussein were to withdraw from Kuwait tomorrow a an unlikely scenario a . Troops would occupy Kuwait for months and perhaps up to a year to police the Retreat retired military officials and analysts said. A your troops wont move until All the iraqi forces including their Armor Are Back into Iraq a ret ired army maj. Gen. J. Milnor Roberts said. Defense department officials speaking on condition of anonymity said that could take months even up to a year if the iraqis leave behind their vast Fields of Hind and sea mines. The United slates has a half million troops in the Region the bulk of an International army of More than 7 10,110 1. A a a they re going to have a massive logistic problem just gathering up their debris Quot said retired adm. Eugene Carroll of the Center for defense information a a there slots of garbage out  iraqis 540,000 troops in the kuwaiti theater have planted several million mines and Are said to have stockpiles of at least 1,000 tons of chemical warfare munitions along with thousands of tanks and artillery . The .-led coalition must also be sure that a withdrawal Onee it begins is real. A we need some commitment that they will continue North,.that they wont just tampon the Border a Carroli said. A a a Quot. Any pullout must be led by Saddam a military Vanguard the Republican guard said or Richard f. Staur former .. Negotiator Oil troop reductions in Europe staur said a Coqui suied military presence preferably provided by the United nations rather than America will be needed in Iraq As Well As Kuwait because a if that Guy still remains in Power. In a sure he a going to continue trying to rebuild his military  if Saddam is overthrown or killed an International Force including some americans might still be needed to keep Iraq from slipping into chaos. Analysts stressed that any Long term Mohi Turing Force whether in Iraq or Kuwait should consist mainly of troops from mideastern nations such As saudi Arabia and Turkey or Neutral countries such As Sweden. A the Community out there is very uneasy with this Goliath sustaining a presence after these hostilities Are Over a Carroll  Page 1. 7 a a e diplomatic Mission to Moscow . Officials said saturday. A a \ / a a the iraqi official is to meet with Gorbachev in the soviet capital on monday and the question of How he would travel came up at a . Military command Brief in for reporters. A r a a a a Marine Brig Gen Richard Neal the senior command spokesman said in reply to questions that a fall iraqi aircraft Are hostile. We control the airspace we re at War we re trying trying to enforce the . Resolutions and i done to know who the passengers arc on any aircraft flying Over the iraqi theater of operations. A but if they Are flying Over the iraqi theater of operations they Are at great extreme  asked if he could guarantee Azizo a safety Neal replied a i certainly  a a diplomatic Effort also was under Way at the United nations. Iraqis . Ambassador said his government wants to negotiate with the allies. A we Are interested in negotiating with All parties who Are conduct Ftfe this War against Iraq Quot Abdul Amir Al Anbari said saturday. It he spoke to reporters has he entered a closed door meeting of the . Security Council to discuss the Gulf War and iraqis withdrawal offer which was linked among other things with an israeli pullout from the occupied lands. Iraq meanwhile fired More scud missiles at saudi Arabia and Israel. The first mired at the saudi port of Jubal before Daw i saturday broke up and crashed harmlessly in the. Desert and the persian Gulf . Officials said. Three scud missiles have reportedly disintegrated in flight recently which could signal a deterioration in the Sovie built rockets. More than 12 hours after that attack the whistle of j two iraqi scuds pierced the night in Israel. Both hit the jewish state the israeli army said but there were no reports of injuries or damage. In the Allied air War meanwhile five . Warplanes a have been lost in the past three Days including two . A-10 thunderbolts snot Down while attacking iraqi Republican guard positions in Northwest Kuwait on saturday a a that is the most planes the americans have lost in a three Day period since the War began a month ago. Italian pilots reported encountering particularly heavy antiaircraft fire Over Iraq on saturday. But three of the five . Warplanes lost since thursday crashed in non combat situations suggesting the relentless Pacic of the Allied air Campaign May be wearing Down the pilots and their equipment. The loss of the two a-10 thunderbolts on saturday left both pilots missing in action Neal said at a military news briefing in Riyadh. Iraqi anti aircraft fire hit the planes As they pounded i Hunters filled with Republican guard soldiers who Art expected to provide iraqis second line of defense against  ground offensive expected soon. In other action in the past 24 hours Neal said an f-16 returning from a combat Mission crashed while on Instru-1 ment approach to an Allied Airfield. The Pilot was  Page 1 r forgotten that water and Beer bottles Wall explode when their contents freeze and expand in frigid weather. More than one guard has found car trunks strewn with broken Glass and Frozen drinks. A one lady had a magnum of Champagne lost a Cote said. A a. A a. Some extraneous items Are not so easily identified according to staff sgt. Timothy Mcnamara of the Community a Provost marshals office. His guards have been detailed at the Post Exchange area. A a we be been finding a lot of Little animals in the in Gines a he said. Or at least what a left of them. A apparently Martens have a penchant for chomping hoses and the insulation on Battery cables while hedgehogs like to cozy up to warm motors. Not Good planning on the animals part not a pretty sight for Mcnamara s hand of inspectors. Mcnamara says the Only thing to stump him so far w As two rows of egg shaped domes he found under the Tail end of a Mercedes. The Man who owned it did t know what they were for either. Bus did that they had been there Quot for three years a As Long As head owned the i car a and they Hadnot caused him any problems so far. Spec. Lee Adams who was on Juard duty at one of the Cavern a a main Gates said tha when she finds some j thing goofy she just tries to be polite. A i just Point u j out a she said. A do you know there a a donuts in there. Sometimes the oddity does no to warrant a reply the person in the car. There was for instance the Tim one guard found lady a underwear under a car seat. The Drivers Blush w As enough