European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - March 23, 1991, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Saturday March 23, 1991 the stars and stripes b Page 5collision of Navy planes a mystery the stars and stripes san Diego up a the pilots of two . Navy patrol planes that collided with 27 people aboard should have been in radio Contact with each Oiher and with controllers aboard an aircraft Carrier before they crashed a Navy spokesman said Friday. Some bits of wreckage arid personal effects from the two p-3c Orion air planes were found during a search of the crash site 60 Miles Southwest of san Diego and about 12 Miles off the coast of Ensenada Mexico but there were no signs of bodies or survivors said senior chief Petty officer Bob Howard a spokesman for the Navy a Pacific Fleet air forces. The cause of the thursday morning crash was still a mystery Friday. Navy investigators were interviewing air controllers aboard the Carrier Abraham Lincoln Ana reviewing voice and radar tapes of the incident. A in the Normal course of events the pilots would have been talking to each other. And to the air traffic controllers aboard the Lincoln a Howard said. The Lincoln was about 50 Miles from the scene of the crash and the planes were also on the radar of Navy controllers in san Diego. A they were in the area they were supposed to be a Howard said. A one plane was being relieved by the second aircraft that had just moved into the  Howard said the weather was bad in the exercise area at the time of the crash but noted that visibility had apparently not been hampered and that the sturdy Orion is designed to Fly in storms. A a the weather was not optimum but visibility was still relatively Good because the explosion was heard and seen on a ship five Miles away a Howard said. The Navy released a partial list of the victims Friday All from patrols Yadron 50 based at Moffett Field naval air station in Mountain View Calif. There were 13 crewmen on one plane and 14 on the a other. A a a a. The name of one Pilot it. Cmdr. Robert a. Name Cek 33,_ Westmoreland n.y., was released. The name of the Pilot of the second pt3c was not released. Howard said that while searchers were still looking for survivors in the Chilly water the Crews of Orion planes do not Wear parachutes or survival gear during their lengthy submarine Hunting missions. A obviously we always have Hope but the longer they remain at sea the More that Hope is diminished a Howard said. The Navy knows the exact location of the crash but sea conditions and the depth of the water have led to the recovery of Only one piece of wreckage that was too Large to bring aboard a helicopter. Mexican officials have Given the Navy permission to search inside mexican Waters. It was not known exactly what the Orion were doing when they crashed other than that they were operating in conjunction with the Alameda based Lincoln and its three escort ships in an area frequently used for training exercises. The p-3c Orion is a four engine Turboprop anti submarine warplane built by the Lockheed corp. It has been in use by the Navy since 1961. It is designed to Hunt for submarines and is equipped to drop sonar buoys and can also carry torpedo. A amp a bailout funds awaiting Bush of Washington a. A new $30 billion taxpayer Check to bail out depositor in savings and loan associations is awaiting the signature of president Bush who already is preparing to ask for another $50 billion. The Resolution Trust corp., which is managing the bailout has spent most of the $50 billion that Congress approved last year. The new $30 billion approved by the House on thursday will allow bailout operations to continue through sept. 30. The Senate accepted the Compromise wednesday on a voice vote. Congress has refused to give the administration open ended authority to spend whatever it takes to Complete the bailout of depositors with savings in failed a amp is. So Bush will have to ask Congress later this year for another $50 billion presumably enough to carry operations through sept. 30,1992. In addition the bailout Agency is borrowing another $100 billion or so that it expects to repay after disposing of the failed institutions assets. Estimates of the total taxpayer Cost of the bailout Range As High As $500 billion. For that reason few lawmakers have been eager to approve a new instalment of taxpayer funds even though the Money will go to depositors rather than to a amp a investors and operators whose lending policies caused much of the problem. V a a the Etc already has shut Down 373 a amp is that ran into financial problems in the late 1980s. Another 125 insolvent thrifts Are expected to be closed or reorganized by sept. 30. The Federal savings and loan insurance corp., which guaranteed deposits has been depleted by those failures. A the administration will continue its efforts to prosecute the culprits where there was wrongdoing a said House Republican Leader Bob Michel of Illinois. A a we in the Congress have a responsibility to those depositors who have relied on a Federal guarantee of their  a every Day we delay Only results in throwing away additional Money a said rep. Chalmers Wylie of Ohio senior Republican on the House banking committee. A a a. A a a a first edition new York daily news publisher Robert Masthead and his picture on the front Maxwell holds a copy of the first edition Page. Maxwell promised his readers a of the newspaper with his name on the paper a was Good As it was  in the stars and stripes 10 years ago March 23,1981 a Richard Allen president Reagan a National Security adviser said Western Europe must curb social spending and reject a the contemptible philosophy of better red than dead if it is to Deal successfully with the soviets. Alcohol related traffic deaths drop As teens and others heed warnings 20 years ago March 23,1971 a a commanding general in Vietnam said he does not plan to discipline 53 men who refused to move Forward to secure a damaged helicopter and their officers armoured vehicle. 30 years ago March 23,1961 a a los Angeles builder testified before a Senate subcommittee that a fall hell broke Loose when he refused to repaint new military housing to please officers wives or let officers pick out lumber a aboard by  40 years ago March 23,1951 a Alger Hiss former state department official and adviser to president Roosevelt began serving a five year prison sentence for lying when he denied giving government secrets to communist spy courier Whittaker Chambers. Atlanta up a the number of alcohol related traffic deaths has dropped significantly indicating the Success of new state Laws and campaigns to reduce Drunken driving Federal researchers said. The proportion of traffic deaths attributed to alcohol decreased for All four age groups in National Highway traffic safety administration surveys from 1982 to 1989, the National centers for disease control said thursday. A significant drop was recorded for Drivers 15 to 17. In that age group the percentage of alcohol related traffic fatalities dropped from 31.5 percent in 1982 to 18.9 percent in 1989, or a total drop of 12.6 percent Between those years. The decrease occurred even though the. Number of Youthful Drivers and Miles driven increased substantially during that period said Julie Russell a cd epidemiologist. There were decreases of 22 percent for those Ages 18 to 20, 7 percent for Drivers Ages 21 to 24 and 11 percent for those Over age 25, the cd said. A the number of alcohol related traffic deaths is going Down for All age groups a Russell said. A but they re going Down most dramatically for the 15-to 17-year-old age  in 1982, there were 10,000 alcohol related traffic deaths for people Ages 15 to 24, she said. By 1989, that number dropped to about 7,000. A i think Public concern Over this problem has caused things to happen a Russell said. A i think groups like mothers against drunk driving and students against drunk driving have helped bring about this  the drinking age was increased to 21 in All 50 states and the District of Columbia and there have been highly successful educational efforts and changes in state Laws penalizing Drivers under 21 for driving impaired the cd said. Russell noted that this time of year traditionally has a number of traffic deaths linked to alcohol use among the Young because of proms and graduations. To counter that trend officials have launched a Public service Campaign directed at High school students in Cooper big drops in alcohol related traffic fatalities percent of decreases Between 1982 and 1989 15-17 18-20 21-24 Over 25 years of age a amps Sharon Kilday action with the National basketball association the National association of broadcasters and mothers against drunk driving