European Stars and Stripes (Newspaper) - September 26, 1977, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Authorized unofficial publication for the . Armed forces vol. 36, no. 161 i do a and sunday monday september 26,1977 if 21855 a military could save billions study claims it s no Burden while it appears that president Carter is reaching up to grasp a rope to haul some heavy object the responsibilities of office that in t the Case. He s Carter May veto Bill on natural Gas Norfolk a. A accusing big Petroleum companies of trying to add at least $20 billion to the Price of natural Gas president Carter threatened saturday to veto a Gas pricing Bill if it conflicts wit the interests of the people. I hate to veto a Bill that a democratic Congress passes Carter declared but you can depend on it i la protect your interests when the Bill comes to my  speaking to Between 3,000 and 4,000cheering, whistling supporters of demo cratic gubernatorial candidate Henry Howell at a rally in Norfolk s Azalea Gar Dens Carter endorsed Howell s populist pro consumer stance and said the Candi Date is campaigning to keep the big  we have the same problem in washing ton about powerful companies having too much influence Carter , at a $l,000-a-couple Howell Campaign dinner at colonial Williamsburg Carter reported some Progress toward a comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty an toward a new strategic arms limitation agreement with the soviet  Don t yet know what our Success might be he said. But at least we mad Progress  he did not specify the nature of the  Don t yet know what the result will be Carter said adding that the Progress came in three hours of talks he had Friday with soviet foreign minister Andrei Gro Myko. Elsewhere in his Williamsburg speech continued on Page 28, col. 1 ducking under a Barrier at the first Baptist Church in Washington so that he can Greet a group of youngsters. In the background is the first lady. A Washington up the All Volun Teer military system had added less than $300 million to manpower costs but the Pentagon is losing billions by failing to change some draft Era personnel policies said a Rand corp. Study released sunday. The four year study by analyst Richard Cooper said the military could save from $5 billion to $10 billion a year in the Longrun by revising outmoded personnel poli cies left Over from the draft  legacy of the draft has obscured and inhibited changes that should remade to lower defense costs it said. Cooper suggested among other things review of military pay and retirement sys tems raising the ratio of career military to first term enlistees to a 50-50 level in creasing numbers of women and having contractors do Many jobs now filled by civilian defense department  relatively modest changes. Could yield Long run Cost savings of from $5billion to $10 billion per year said the 400 Page study commissioned by the defens department s advanced research projects  of the proposals already Are being looked into by the  said the Only manpower Cost in creases that can be even remotely relate to the Volunteer Force Are pay increases for first term enlistees and higher recruiting and Bonus costs. The end result is that the Volunteer continued on Page 28, col. 2 73 . Generals quizzed Vietnam 2nd thoughts by Bernard Weinra Bwashington not the majority of american generals who served in the Vietnam War from 1965 to 1972 say in retrospect that the United states should have avoided involvement according to a  generals also criticized the Way the War was run termed the so called Bod count exaggerated viewed american tactics As poor and ineffective and believed television coverage tended to be sensational according to the  results of the Survey appear in a Book the War managers by Dougl Skinnard a former brigadier general in Indochina and now associate professor of political science at the University of  study is to be published next month by the University press of new  thing that surprised me most was the introspection of the group the Lack of consensus said Kinnard in a Telephone interview. There was a wide spectrum of opinion that emerges out of  i never thought there was a military mind in the crude meaning of the word the notion that military people think like Cavemen he said. But i always thought there was a sort of military mind set. Per haps there is. But for the group who Man aged the War it does t seem to be , a 1944 West Point graduate who became the third in his class to reach general officer rank at the age of 45, served in Vietnam in 1966-67 and 1969-70,when he commanded Field artillery. His last action was the cambodian Campaign which he helped to plan. He retired from the army in 1970. On learning that Gen. Creighton Abrams the former commander of . Troops in Vietnam was seriously ill Kin Nard decided to work on a Survey of Gener als in the War before their memories faded. In reassessing the Vietnam experience one must come to grips with the role of the senior military Kinnard writes inthe introduction to his Book. Barbara Tuchman tells us that the War was not some aberration of the generals but product of civilian policy shaped by three successive civilian presidents and their academic and other civilian  Kinnard sent out a questionnaire in sep tember 1974, before the collapse of the South vietnamese army to 173 general who served in Vietnam in the Peak years of american involvement. There had actually been 183 generals but nine were dead continued on Page 28, col. 1 and strikes report some claim service makes smoking too easy and attractive. See Page 8i