European Stars And Stripes (Newspaper) - August 27, 1988, Darmstadt, Hesse                                Saturday August 27, 1988 the stars and stripes Page 3 suspected spy ring damage called minor by . Officials from Page 1 Tion relating to submarine warfare that forced us tomake expensive and extensive changes said Eugene Carroll now Deputy director of the Center for defens information a Washington think tank. I doubt if Conrad could have equated the seriousness of the Walker incident even if he gave the soviets the 8th inf div s entire War plans file  Conrad who retired from the army in 1985, worked at the Headquarters of the 8th inf div in bad Kreuz Nach West Germany from 1974 to 1979 and from 1980 to 1985. Carroll who served As director of military operations at . European come Headquarters in Stutt Gart West Germany for More than two Vears said Early press reports indicating Conrad had Given up information on nato fuel pipelines and weapons storage were irrelevant. There is no one in Europe who thinks the soviets on t already have that kind of information Carroll said. Even if he gave up contingency plans for How we would respond to Warsaw pact attacks it still in t anything the soviets Don t already know either by obtaining the info through other Means or just using common sense. I mean we know How the soviets will most Likely attack us. We know their marshalling areas their main lines of attack their second Echelon attack  Carroll said he believes the spy Case is More significant politically than militarily. The new York times which first reported the Spring said eight people were involved. However Prech Tel said his office knows of Only three participants i addition to Conrad and the a Ercsik. The three Are Conrad s East bloc Contact whom Hemet As recently As last month in Vienna a . Soldier from whom Conrad solicited information and the wife of one of the hungarians whom swedish police arrested and later released. Kurt Rebmann the chief Federal prosecutor in West Germany said Conrad recruited the other Soldier who received a five figure sum of Money for supplying the ring with military secrets. Rebmann refused to elaborate the a reported. The prosecutor s office anticipates no further arrest sin West Germany in connection with the spy ring Prechtel told the stars and stripes. He said his office does not know the name or location of the Vienna Contact or the . Soldier. In Germany there s 9nly a single Case and that s Clyde Lee Conrad he said. In Washington a defense department official tried to downplay the significance of the Case. You would t necessarily have to rewrite All the plans for a ground War in Europe he said. You might have to change some things but it s not like you d have to Start Over from scratch. Both sides have a pretty Good idea of what the other Side would do  and the army official in the Pentagon said someone could steal a Page out of a company level plans Bookend it could be said he had stolen nato War plans. But what does that mean in the context of the big picture the official said not really that much. It could be something As minor As saying that two tanks will move up to the top of a certain Hill and initially engage the enemy from  because Conrad worked for a division it could be assumed he had Access to a division s War plan which obviously would be More serious the official said. But this is All hypothetical. We have no idea what this person took and there is no Way we can say what kind of damage this Case might cause. It is still very much an Active  nato military planners in Europe said Friday Mili tary War plans run from the very specific to Broad and include anything from numbers of soldiers tanks and aircraft to fuel food and ammunition to tactics an deployment. While the size of forces and quantities of equipment Are known through intelligence gathering on both sides one planner said what they Don t want the enemy to know is How where and when these elements will be employed. Basically they already have the numbers and if he is Ken George a woman standing at the window of the House at 16 Elfeldt Strasse in Rosenheim West Germany the Home of suspected spy Clyde Lee Conrad attempts to pull Down the Shade when she spots a photographer. Conrad had Low level material probably All he had were numbers the official said. Some War plans can take several years to develop and the process is compounded in nato because planners must coordinate their strategy with Alliance nations the planner said. And once plans Are Complete they require review and updating based on changing threats or other world issues. Look at the inf intermediate Range nuclear forces treaty the official said. Could you imagine what that s doing to Many plans that Are in place an will be affected by those weapons being removed contributing to this report staff writers Joseph Owen in Stuttgart West Germany and Mark Walsh in Pitburg West Germany neighbors liked Conrad wondered about his Money from Page 1 Here he Conrad is the one you d least expect to be a spy he never acted suspicious never Horst  Only thing was that he was gone a  an army official in the Pentagon said Friday tha Conrad was a Liaison no with the 8th inf div in bad Kreuz Nach before he retired in september 1985. In wartime Conrad would have defined boundaries of operation for each division the official said. But in peacetime that Job could entail almost anything drawing up charts preparing briefings or he just could have been chief Headquarters  service records show the 41-year-old was born in be bring Ohio where his father died a few years ago. His Mother and younger sister live just North of Sebring. Conrad retired from the army with an honorable discharge after 20 years service. He served As an infantryman and administration specialist and spent 16 of the 20 years in Germany. Army officials said thursday they still were trying to determine what Security clearances Conrad held at the time of his retirement. Where the sergeant got his Money was always source of talk in the Community Horst said. People wondered not Only How the Conrads could afford such luxurious belongings but How they could afford to rent their average first floor apartment which by Bosen Heim standards was expensive. The Conrads pay 800 Marks a month $432plus utilities she said. It was always said that she Anja Conrad receive Money from the United states from her sex father in Law who was supposed to be a millionaire Horst said. Neighbors in the Village of about 6,500 people which is located about 40 Miles Southwest of Frank Furt also knew he received a pension for his military service but they did t know How much. Calculating his years of service and rank Conrad should have received about $900 a month. He told us that he was working with computers an that s what his wife thought too Horst said Conrad s available service records like his reputation in the Community appear unblemished. He held the National defense service medal the Vietnam service medal three meritorious service medals five army commendation medals the army achievement medal and seven Good conduct medals. He spent his initial army assignment Asah infantry Man in Vietnam from March 1966 to March 1967. Conrad had two assignments in Germany from may1967 to june 1974, but the army could not say where. From november 1974 to August 1979, he was at Hico 8th inf div in bad Kreuz Nach. Conrad went Back to the United states from septem Ber 1979 to March 1980, where he served with the 3rd in 17th inf at fort Ord Calif. He then studied Basic Ger Man for nine months at the defense language Institute in California before returning in november 1980 to the 8thinf div where he stayed until his retirement. When Conrad was gone from Home for several Day sin a Row he d say he was at a convention in Frankfurt Anja Conrad told the lifeguard Friday. Anja Conrad also told him that while Conrad never told her the name of the computer firm for which he said he worked she had no reason to doubt his  lifeguard who asked that his name not be used also said she told him she had no idea he was involved i espionage activities and that she would stand by  while most people in Rosenheim knew Conrad by sight the lifeguard said Conrad kept to himself and did t have any close friends in town. He said he had the impression Conrad was a very Fine husband who would help his wife with household chores and would never raise his voice at his family. Horst said Anja Conrad s two adult daughters froma previous marriage to an american loved Conrad like their real father. They called him daddy she said she and other neighbors feel sorry for the family and Hope the arrest turns out to be a mistake. Contributing to this report Regina Kirkendall in Rosenheim and Chuck Vinch in Washington is Ken George a lbs to Crew stakes out Clyde Lee Conrad s residence at 16 Elfeldt Strasse in Rosenheim West Germany